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Nixon, Dreyfus & Bull on Travel

Monday, January 3, 1972 · 12:45 PM–12:46 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Dreyfus, Jack J., Jr.; Bull, Stephen B.Conversation642-042 on Tape 642 (tape position 05:44:54–05:45:46)StartMonday, January 3, 1972 at 12:45 PMEndMonday, January 3, 1972 at 12:46 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 642-042 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met briefly with Jack J. Dreyfus, Jr. and Stephen B. Bull to coordinate a scheduling adjustment regarding an upcoming meeting. The discussion functioned primarily as a logistical check-in before the President transitioned to his residence. Dreyfus also briefly mentioned his travel plans to Florida prior to his departure.

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Transcript (AI-generated)

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5:44:56Yeah, that idea, that quote might be my last.
5:45:03When he said, why don't I say that the black race, no, I would have said it in the context of something else.
5:45:31because I hadn't read that book, or the story, but I slid all over.
5:45:40I just said, I just slid.
5:45:47I just said, well, I, yeah.
5:45:50And that also people would,

NARA Description

On January 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Jack J. Dreyfus, Jr., and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:45 pm to 12:46 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 642-042 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 642-42

Date: January 3, 1972
Time: 12:45 pm - 12:46 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Jack J. Dreyfus, Jr. and Stephen B. Bull.

     Greetings

     The President's schedule
          -Delay of forthcoming meeting

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:46 pm.

     Walk to Residence

     Dreyfus’s schedule
          -Florida

Dreyfus left at 12:46 pm.

Also recorded on January 3, 1972

  • 642-037 12:18 PM · 14 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John W. Kauffman, Stephen M. Morris, Jack A. L. Hahn, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., James H. Cavanaugh, White House photographer, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:18 pm to 12:32 pm.
  • 018-011 12:32 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:32 pm and 12:36 pm.
  • 018-012 12:32 PM · 8 min — the White House operator, Alexander P. Butterfield, President Richard M. Nixon, and Tricia Nixon Cox talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:32 pm and 12:43 pm.
  • 642-038 12:32 PM · 17 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:32 pm and 12:36 pm.
  • 642-039 12:32 PM · 11 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, White House operator, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Tricia Nixon Cox met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:32 pm and 12:43 pm.
  • 642-040 12:43 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:43 pm and 12:45 pm.
  • 642-041 12:43 PM · 22 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:43 pm and 12:45 pm.
  • 642-028 12:46 PM · 28 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:46 pm and 2:07 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 642-042, January 3, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/642-042 (accessed September 30, 2026).