Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 653 › Conversation 653-002

Nixon with unidentified visitors in the Oval Office on Oval Office

Monday, January 24, 1972 · 8:58 AM–10:04 AM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)]Conversation653-002 on Tape 653 (tape position 00:17:25–00:17:47)StartMonday, January 24, 1972 at 8:58 AMEndMonday, January 24, 1972 at 10:04 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 653-002 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with an unidentified woman in the Oval Office to conduct an unscheduled administrative or personal engagement. During the meeting, the President summoned White House aide Stephen B. Bull to join the discussion. The woman departed shortly thereafter, though the specific purpose of the interaction remains undocumented due to the lack of a transcript.

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NARA Description

On January 24, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:58 am and 10:04 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 653-002 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 653-2

Date: January 24, 1972
Time: Unknown between 8:58 am and 10:04 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with an unknown woman.

       Request that Stephen B. Bull join him

The unknown woman left at an unknown time before 10:04 am.

Also recorded on January 24, 1972

  • 653-001 8:58 AM · 12 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:58 am and 10:04 am.
  • 653-003 8:58 AM · 26 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:58 am and 10:04 am.
  • 653-004 8:58 AM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:58 am and 10:04 am.
  • 653-005 8:58 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:58 am and 10:04 am.
  • 088-001 10:04 AM · 6 min — during the signing of the 1973 Budget Message, President Richard M. Nixon and staff members of the Office of Management and Budget, including Samuel M. Cohn, Mark W. Alger, Charles E. Benton, David Bray, Lawrence Breese, Velma N. Baldwin, Philip Dame, Donald A. Derman, Lynn Etheredge, C. William Fischer, James M. Frey, Wilmer Hunt, John F. Hurley, Walter W. Haase, Joseph Laitin, Susanne Lind, Hugh F. Loweth, Theodore C. Lutz, C. Peter Modlin, Jr., Philip MacDonald, Dale R. McOmber, Douglas Norwood, Wilfred H. Rommel, Wesley K. Sasaki, Glenn R. Schleede, Julius Shiskin, Richard Stubbing, Reardon Sullivan, Daniel H. Taft, Barbara Torrey, James D. Tschirigi, Milton Turen, Ellis H. Veatch, Joyce Walker, Charles Kraus, Frank C. Carlucci, III, and Raymond Clarke; and possibly William H. Kohlberg, William A. Niskanen, William H. Taft, IV, David P. Taylor, George P. Shultz, Caspar W. ("Cap") Weinberger, Arthur B. Laffer, William L. Gifford, Charles R. Perry, Dwight A. Ink, Kenneth W. Dam, Donald B. Rice, and Paul H. O'Neill, met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 10:04 am and 11:59 pm.
  • 653-006 10:04 AM · 24 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Henry A. Kissinger, unknown person(s), Rose Mary Woods, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:04 am and 10:34 am.
  • 653-007 10:34 AM · 23 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Henry A. Kissinger, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:34 am to 11:02 am.
  • 653-008 11:04 AM · 48 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, Kurt Waldheim, William P. Rogers, George H. W. Bush, Emil ("Bus") Mosbacher, Jr., White House photographer, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:04 am to 11:53 am.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 653-002, January 24, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/653-002 (accessed October 12, 2026).