Nixon White House Tapes ›Tape 653 › Conversation 653-010

Nixon & Bull on Frank L. Rizzo and Air travel logistics

Monday, January 24, 1972 · 11:55 AM–11:59 AM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.Conversation653-010 onTape 653 (tape position 02:10:49–02:11:24)StartMonday, January 24, 1972 at 11:55 AMEndMonday, January 24, 1972 at 11:59 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 653-010 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull briefly met to review the President’s upcoming schedule, specifically focusing on a meeting with Frank L. Rizzo. The participants also engaged in casual conversation regarding presidential travel logistics, concerns about public awareness of landing details, and reflections on past trips to Florida. No major policy decisions were reached during this short administrative check-in.

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2:11:04The question is, I don't want to air it, but what the hell, most people, it's all this kind of shit.
2:11:16It's not the money, it's all the money.
2:11:23Most people, it's all the money.
2:11:27I'm curious how much they know of that landing at the National West.
2:11:29Oh sure.
2:11:30I noticed that the President was there.
2:11:33That doesn't matter.
2:11:35Then I realized, well they probably haven't been informed of the landing yet.
2:11:40But they always know when the President's plane lands.
2:11:44Yeah.
2:11:45The administration didn't even draw up the presidential paragraph.
2:11:48It's all cautionary that it doesn't matter, except we're all going to get into it at some point.
2:11:57Did they have a good time in Florida this time?
2:12:01Oh, yes, they had a good time.
2:12:06They always did.
2:12:07Doctor?
2:12:10Sure.
2:12:11They always did.
2:12:12Okay, uh...

NARA Description

On January 24, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:55 am and 11:59 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 653-010 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 653-10

Date: January 24, 1972
Time: Unknown between 11:55 am and 11:59 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       The President’s schedule
            -Frank L. Rizzo

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:59 am.

Also recorded on January 24, 1972

  • 653-008 11:04 AM · 48 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, Kurt Waldheim, William P. Rogers, George H. W. Bush, Emil ("Bus") Mosbacher, Jr., White House photographer, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:04 am to 11:53 am.
  • 653-009 11:53 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:53 am to 11:55 am.
  • 653-011 11:55 AM · 58 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:55 am and 11:59 am.
  • 653-012 11:59 AM · 34 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Frank L. Rizzo, John D. Ehrlichman, White House photographer, Jacqui Miller, John Caracciolo, Thomas Mulloney, Henry Schoenfeld, Gene Harris, John Katz, Lou Zacharias, Andre Mitchell, Dan Lynch, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:59 am to 12:32 pm.
  • 653-013 12:32 PM · 25 sec — United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:32 pm and 12:33 pm.
  • 653-014 12:32 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:32 pm and 12:33 pm.
  • 653-015 12:33 PM · 13 sec — unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:33 pm and 4:55 pm.
  • 019-041 1:05 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:05 pm and 1:51 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 653-010, January 24, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/653-010 (accessed September 18, 2026).