Nixon White House TapesTape 661 › Conversation 661-010

Nixon & Bull on Henry Kissinger and National Security

Monday, January 31, 1972 · 5:05 PM–5:13 PM ET · Oval Office ·7 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.Conversation661-010 onTape 661 (tape position 03:34:58–03:35:18)StartMonday, January 31, 1972 at 5:05 PMEndMonday, January 31, 1972 at 5:13 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 661-010 ↗

President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to coordinate and manage Henry Kissinger’s upcoming travel schedule. The brief discussion focused on the logistics of Kissinger’s recent activities and travel requirements. Nixon provided instructions regarding communication protocols and the handling of the National Security Advisor's itinerary.

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You've seen it.
Henry did a spree.
Don't tell me to interrupt you.
All right, sir.
Best of luck.

On January 31, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:05 pm and 5:13 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 661-010 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 661-10

Date: January 31, 1972
Time: Unknown between 5:05 pm and 5:13 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     Henry A. Kissinger’s schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 5:13 pm.
  • 020-009 4:04 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stewart B. McKinney talked on the telephone from 4:04 pm to 4:06 pm.
  • 661-009 4:04 PM · 1 hr 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stewart B. McKinney, John D. Ehrlichman, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:04 pm to 5:05 pm.
  • 661-011 5:05 PM · 41 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:05 pm and 5:49 pm.
  • 661-012 5:49 PM · 11 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, Alexander P. Butterfield, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:49 pm to 6:00 pm.
  • 661-013 6:00 PM · 54 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 6:00 pm and 6:06 pm.
  • 661-014 6:00 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 6:00 pm and 6:06 pm.
  • 661-015 6:00 PM · 1 min — Alexander P. Butterfield and United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 6:00 pm and 11:59 pm.
  • 020-010 6:06 PM · 4 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 6:06 pm and 7:26 pm.

Conversation 661-010, January 31, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/661-010 (accessed September 18, 2026).