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Nixon & Ziegler on Public Relations and Busing

Friday, March 10, 1972 · 11:13 AM–11:17 AM ET · Oval Office · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.Conversation682-003 on Tape 682 (tape position 00:41:51–00:43:52)StartFriday, March 10, 1972 at 11:13 AMEndFriday, March 10, 1972 at 11:17 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 682-003 ↗

President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler met to coordinate logistics for upcoming White House photography sessions and the handling of official press statements. They specifically discussed the framing of a meeting regarding school busing to avoid potential political fallout involving legal counsel. The conversation concluded with Nixon deciding to exclude Ziegler from certain photographic opportunities to maintain appropriate appearances.

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On March 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:13 am and 11:17 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 682-003 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 682-3

Date: March 10, 1972
Time: 11:13 am - unknown before 11:17 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.

     Photograph sessions
          -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins
          -Busing meeting
               -Lawyers
               -Statement
                      -Ziegler

Ziegler left at 11:17 pm.

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I just didn't want this to seem that we were trying to, why don't you let me take a picture of the bus station?
You want one?
No, no, we can't because we don't sign lawyers.
That's all right.
Let's leave you out.
You're not about to bust some statements.
I can't.
I can't.
I can't.
I can't.
I can't.
I can't.
I can't.
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Conversation 682-003, March 10, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/682-003 (accessed November 1, 2026).