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Nixon & Bull on Luci Baines Johnson and Diplomatic gifts

Tuesday, March 14, 1972 · 3:31 PM–3:37 PM ET · Oval Office · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation685-017 on Tape 685 (tape position 05:40:00–05:41:38)StartTuesday, March 14, 1972 at 3:31 PMEndTuesday, March 14, 1972 at 3:37 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 685-017 ↗

President Nixon met with aide Stephen B. Bull to coordinate an upcoming meeting with Luci Baines Johnson. The discussion focused on the logistics of providing gifts, including items acquired during the President's recent trip to the People's Republic of China. Nixon also addressed arrangements for a special tour for Johnson and considerations regarding public perception of these interactions.

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On March 14, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:31 pm and 3:37 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 685-017 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 685-17

Date: March 14, 1972
Time: Unknown between 3:31 pm and 3:37 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

        Meeting with Luci (Johnson) Nugent
             -Gifts
                    -Patrick L. Nugent
                    -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
                          -Jewelry box
                          -Scroll
                          -Koala print

Bull left.

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You'll get a bookmark.
That's all.
See, this is the presidential stadium.
No, because you've got you ready to meet.
I'm already shaking it off for a long, long reason.
I told them that they sure better be careful about that.
Yeah, we've got to worry about it.
It's just a kind of thing.
But we brought it a long way.
Oh, yeah.
I like those hangers, you know.
I'll bet you that Washington Zoo, this is those hangers.
I hear they have the biggest hangers.
Oh, yeah.
What whole year?
From December 30th to September 30th?
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Conversation 685-017, March 14, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/685-017 (accessed November 3, 2026).