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Conversation 685-018

TapeTape 685StartTuesday, March 14, 1972 at 3:37 PMEndTuesday, March 14, 1972 at 3:49 PMTape start time05:41:38Tape end time05:55:27ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.;  Cox, Tricia Nixon;  Nugent, Luci Johnson;  Nugent, Patrick L.;  White House photographerRecording deviceOval Office
AI Summary

President Nixon met with his daughter Tricia Nixon Cox, Luci Johnson Nugent, Patrick L. Nugent, and Stephen B. Bull in the Oval Office for a social visit and an official photo session. The conversation centered on casual family pleasantries, the history and legacy of the presidency, and the exchange of gifts, including a telescope. The participants also coordinated posing for the White House photographers to capture images of the group during their time in the office.

Social visitWhite House photographyFamilyGiftsPresidency
AudioNARA Description

On March 14, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Tricia Nixon Cox, Luci Johnson Nugent, Patrick L. Nugent, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:37 pm to 3:49 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 685-018 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 685-18

Date: March 14, 1972
Time: 3:37 pm - 3:49 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull, Tricia Nixon Cox, Luci (Johnson) Nugent and Patrick
L. Nugent; the White House photographers were present at the beginning of the meeting.

        Greetings

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:49 pm.

       Patrick L. Nugent
             -Age
             -Lyndon B. Johnson
             -Captain Kangaroo

       Oval Office rug
       [Photograph session]
            -Positions

       The People's Republic of China [PRC]
            -Tree
            -Pandas

       Johnson
            -President of the Senate

       Patrick Nugent
             -George Washington
             -Abraham Lincoln
             -Tricia Nixon Cox
             -Franklin D. Roosevelt
             -Thomas Jefferson
             -Childrens garden
                   -Footprints

       Thank yous

       Photographers
            -Chair
                  -Patrick Nugent
            -Press briefing
                  -Ronald L. Ziegler
            -Johnson
                  -Patrick Nugent
                         -Gavel

Press photographers entered and left at an unknown time after 3:37 pm.

       Thank yous

       Gifts
                -Telescope
                      -Astronauts

       White House

       Johnson
            -Television station

       Patrick Nugent
             -Political career

Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:37 pm.

       Photographs
            -Copies
                 -Families
                 -Johnson

Tricia Nixon Cox, et al. left at 3:49 pm.
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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And you might have to tell the others.
I will.
That's it.
You're going to Europe, too?
Okay.
Okay.
Gee, isn't that wonderful?
Hold it here.
From December 30th to September 30th.
I'll take everybody to work.
Thank you.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
Thank you very much.
I guess if you wanted to know it, the little boy's footprints are very... Oh, boy, I see.
I guess they're...
I guess they're...
Well, I think what you should do is if you're giving something to John, you should give him to the boy and give her one of those little boxes.
When you're about to send her to your bar or something else, if you've got any less, make it less expensive.
We have an awful lot of those scrolls.
I think we ordered 700 of those.
What is it?
What is it?
We have one of those prints.
One of those cloth prints.
It's fine.
It's not like that.
Yeah.
Here we are.
Hi.
Well, how are you?
Nice to see you again.
The natural Lord.
Hi.
How are you?
Well, hi.
Look at that.
Yes, sir.
He's, uh, how do you call him?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I get it, I get it.
Yeah, yeah, how are you?
You're important.
Well, Stephen, he's been in the Jerome before, hasn't he?
Yes, do you remember?
He used to work here, didn't he?
Yes.
And what did he do?
Oh, what did he do?
I don't know.
But we remember a lot from that time.
It's amazing.
Yes, yes.
And you look at President Nixon.
Yes.
Isn't that rough?
What's that?
That's right.
Isn't that something?
Isn't that something?
They remember that's always been rough.
It's a different road, but they always have the seal there.
They can get a better picture.
I'll be sure to set it back for you.
That's right.
You sit right there.
That's all right.
Right over here.
We're going to take a couple of little trannies out there and I've got most of these things.
He was the president of the Senate too, once, and I was.
He liked that.
That's the way he gets it.
That's right.
Now you preside.
That's right.
That's a tree.
A little tree.
Okay.
Let's see if we can show you something else.
Why don't you come over here.
Tell me about the victim who was on the border.
He was on the border in Washington.
Who did you tell?
Mrs. Cox and I didn't know that.
Who did you say that you saw earlier that was on the 10 out of 10?
President who?
Roosevelt, right.
And who was on the Hill?
Nichols.
Who was on the Hill?
Comrade Terrence Lee.
Comrade Terrence Lee, you know him?
No, I don't know him.
Let me show you something, see if you recognize him.
He was in the box.
Yes, he was in the box.
You know out there at the children's garden?
You know your feet's there?
Footprints that seem to have been... No, I don't know if he would remember that.
Do you know what it is?
Your footprint is out there on children's gardens.
So it's there for history to see, right?
Now, some years from now, they'll see you with new shoes.
Footprints.
There, and back, throw it back.
You can see the cement, see?
And the cement before it got hard.
And then now you've got to put it on your baby.
Well, you're very welcome.
You're very welcome.
You know one thing about him, he's an old boy, he likes to have fun, get around, do things.
He should have really done a film with Marius Rudd on Santa Claus.
I mean, he should have done a film with Marius Rudd on Santa Claus.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
Now when they come in, give them a hand.
We'll do a chair.
Do you like that?
Chairs?
Okay.
You just have to pick her up when they come in.
You pop up in there in that chair.
Now I'll put you in a chair like this.
Now wait a minute.
Now wait a minute.
And I'll give you a hand.
Now you sit.
When they get in here, I'll sit back.
You can lie down.
They aren't.
They're in the press briefing now.
So you can submit it to them as we arrive at 9 a.m. That's their return.
They're on their way.
So they can get to the meeting.
On their way to the meeting, they come in and they have a little work to do.
So I'm going to go now.
I'm going to pick this up.
I did it before.
Right.
Okay.
All right.
Always, always keep a little distance from your grandpa.
Always, always keep a little distance from your grandpa.
Oh, well.
Thank you very much.
Very impressive.
Very impressive.
Well, we've got a little present for you.
And here's our, that's the beautiful one.
That's what she has here.
Thank you.
All right.
Put your ears and breathe together.
Breathe together.
And you're afraid of us.
And how can you tell how afraid of us?
How can you tell how afraid of us?
How can you tell how afraid of us?
How can you tell how afraid of us?
How can you tell how afraid of us?
Now, I think you better take it with you that way, because an airplane would be hard to carry otherwise.
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