Nixon & Woods on State dinners and Guest lists

1:42:02I had, when I was a congressman, I had one of the first entities that arrived in Washington, and it was the Robertsville Ravens.
1:42:09I don't know whether they're having any guests, or the OAS, or whatever it is, but you can't ask them to come.
1:42:18Well, mostly, those people, but we did have a rock and roll, and I guess that's why they were adding Mrs. Bacon.
1:42:23Mrs. Bacon could be added.
1:42:26And they also include rock and roll on the Mexican data.
1:42:31I think we ought to be able to run on that, you know.
1:42:33It would be a nice time to have him and his wife do a dinner.
1:42:36I think we ought to have a bench.
1:42:38I think we ought to have a pond.
1:42:49The L.A.S.
1:42:50The L.A.S.
1:42:50The L.A.S.
1:42:50Yes, Mrs. Bacon.
1:42:52And when you go to you and call her and say that the President would call on you to be back there.
1:43:01Well, you know, she wants him to get that medal, which is still kicking off.
1:43:05Well, I'm going to give him the medal.
1:43:07That night.
1:43:07That night.
1:43:08I am.
1:43:08I know the rules and the suggestions here that it will be done.
1:43:12And I said, how was it?
1:43:13I think if they have nothing else to do with the OAS, they'd like to see the Medal of Freedom given to the great, great, great artist.
1:43:28You can say it, but don't tell her.
1:43:31No, I can say it internally.
1:43:34He is going to get the Medal of Freedom, but that's only for your own information.
1:43:38And don't indicate it's going to be done that way.
1:43:41Don't tell her.
1:43:41Don't tell her.
1:43:44I'll just tell her he's going to be here.
1:43:46He's going to be behind.
1:43:48Another one that I think would be good to have is I think the old place where the grandchild was killed and so forth.
1:43:55And my daughter, Jason's wife, is a personal member.
1:43:59We've had the other dentists, you know, past.
1:44:02We had to change it to the church.
1:44:05The church was not quite the same.
1:44:09We didn't run on these lights, but it was to a Christmas reception.
1:44:13Quite different.
1:44:13Yeah.
1:44:14But see, he was on the Rockefeller trip.
1:44:17Yes.
1:44:18And so that's that.
1:44:19The kids probably on the main line.
1:44:21Great, great, great, great.
1:44:23That's marvelous.
1:44:24Right, and another thing on that one too, we'll have some after dinner things, and that would be a chance to get in touch with people around the country.
1:45:01Well, I bet, I don't think we can stop it too much.
1:45:05There aren't really that many goofy people.
1:45:07Not really, but on the other hand, the lack of caregivers gets more and more and more impossible.
1:45:13I'd rather have, of course, the safest thing is to have a single witness, but I don't think I'm made.
1:45:24What we might consider this time is to have the
1:45:31The Army Corps is just fantastic.
1:45:33They're so good.
1:45:35I've seen them in West Ponder, Navy, Naval Academy.
1:45:39I don't know if they're that good.
1:45:43I don't know whether they're Navy or the Service Academy.
1:46:03One thing, I am very, very much a stickler.
1:46:05I don't like entertainment unless it's the best.
1:46:08I mean, we have many friends, you know, and they're just a little below the second level.
1:46:16And if we had something every month, then you can have me for a second.
1:46:21But like her, I mean, everything for her is just very good because she is the best at her time.
1:46:27And you know what I mean?
1:46:28That's why we're here.
1:46:33I know, for example, that Ben Radin's old apartment is very dirty because we don't have his wife sitting on top of that.
1:46:38Oh, yeah, it does not, yeah.
1:46:40Or else I heard her at the Met.
1:46:43She's here if I'm on there.
1:46:44I can't have her down here for that matter.
1:46:48It's not fair to her to sit there.
1:46:50She's washing her hands and fingers.
1:46:52I know.
1:46:54I'm trying to be quiet.
1:46:56I don't know.
1:47:16Well, they'll go around doing country.
1:47:21We invited them for dinner a couple of times.
1:47:24They've been on tour.
1:47:25Well, if they're going to try, they'll try right away.
1:47:33They wait until late a couple of times to try.
1:47:38I wonder if you could check on that, to see, you know, they do that over in East Lane.
1:47:44Yeah, they have to wait until it's okay over here, but I'll tell Lucy to go ahead.
1:47:49Well, ask Lucy.
1:47:50Ask Lucy, who do you have in mind?
1:47:53Would you do that?
1:47:55And that, uh...
1:47:57I make them a few because I don't want to have any more of those fairies dancing around.
1:48:02No, I know, but they need to get an offering back to get anybody who's... Well, just see, I'd like to try to start a Catholic wedding for the Catholic.
1:48:13It'd be a little bit gay.
1:48:14I think it would be very good.
1:48:16I do.
1:48:16I think it would be very good.
1:48:41Well, it was a nice dinner last night for all those people.
1:48:44Okay.
1:48:46This is longer than 88.
1:48:47It was mostly based on dead person here.
1:48:58Serious?
1:49:01Fantastic.
1:49:04It was a good group, you know.
1:49:06It was a good group.
1:49:08It was a good group.
1:49:17It is something I want to do very often.
1:49:21I don't seem to know how people sell them.
1:49:24I guess I used to do it, remember?
1:49:26We used to go out to those vice president years.
1:49:29But I don't think I could do a dinner with my president.
1:49:34responsible there's more than once a week well you have too many responses well i did for example the dinner last the night before and i did one last night and uh and frankly uh you know many people go out to dinner some of our people take some of the dumbest invitations i've ever had but you see the problem is that
1:49:57and after dinner i'm going to talk to everybody
1:50:17what we said and what we're trying to do with the world.
1:50:22I think I work a little more than some men, but nevertheless, I do think that Mrs. Longworth, if you'll make it, doesn't have anything more to say about something like that.
1:50:40But he does...
1:50:45He does very interesting things.
1:50:46He has people in fatigue at 5 o'clock sometimes.
1:50:50Someday, on the days, you know, 5 o'clock, he might just, I don't know, he might just decide, I think I'll just go over there.
1:50:58It's rather fun to go over this.
1:51:00and some people would just sit and talk and laugh a little over a half hour and have a cup of tea or a glass of coffee.
1:51:08You know what I mean?
1:51:11That's really fun.
1:51:12It's like the great Grand Dom of the old times.
1:51:15I wouldn't do it for the patients.
1:51:17She would invite a lot of people.
1:51:21She didn't save up the credits.
1:51:25You just call her that day.
1:51:28You could say that he might be free to come by.
1:51:32She'd say, would you like somebody?
1:51:38You know what I mean?
1:51:42Would you have her mind?
1:51:45I mean, where I had an idea, it had to be clear.
1:51:48Lucy, Lucy, of course, versus Pat.
1:52:12So we had dinner the first night.
1:52:17He came in after he wanted to have an exemption.
1:52:22I was pressured all through the rest of those years.
1:52:31the only time that they i guess they have never impressed me since then i mean i believe i've been to dinners all over the world i've never been impressed by one since i left the vice president never we went to two minutes that's right see that's why i and i think you would rather say don't not have very many cabinets and try not to repeat some people
1:52:56The reason you can take a good crowd together is when you have people who are coming and it is a big thrill.
1:53:02Yeah.
1:53:03And, and the Broadway crowd.
1:53:05It changes the character of the group.
1:53:06It changes the story.
1:53:08If you've got a group of there that have never been there before, they, they're thrilled and they share everything.
1:53:16It's like having a, it's like having a party with the members of the press.
1:53:22It is unbelievably dull and horrible because they're all supposed to be cynics.
1:53:27And they act that way.
1:53:29And it's like having frankly too many government people.
1:53:33Because the government people think it's their do.
1:53:36And they're nice, I don't mean that, but you know what I mean.
1:53:38They just aren't going to get off their hands and shoot.
1:53:41No, and they're not going to show excitement because they have to be much more sophisticated than that.
1:53:48Before I tell you, some of these people have commented on those things, like I said, in the same sense.
1:53:54Yeah, we got quite a few people going into that.
1:53:56Did you say that not the labor people came?
1:53:59No.
1:53:59Okay, one man was an assembly of government employees.
1:54:02I don't know if that's the right way to put it.
1:54:04I wonder if there was a question of the...
1:54:07I'll give you the names of them.
1:54:13You checked with Colson, didn't you?
1:54:15Well, I told them.
1:54:16I told them they didn't come.
1:54:17I called them every day and said every one of those people has regretted it.
1:54:20Yeah, you did?
1:54:21All right, I'll ask them about it.
1:54:23Well, they assumed...
1:54:27In my office right now, they're going to go up to the Capitol.
1:54:29I think they're still there.
1:54:30It's Julia Meaden, her husband, and two little girls.
1:54:33They don't know what you're doing right now.
1:54:37They didn't ask you.
1:54:38Remember the red-lighted television?
1:54:40She used to be on that.
1:54:43She's a pretty girl.
1:54:44She used to be on 8,000 shows and 30 all-American type of get-all television shows.
1:54:51Well, she's been Andrew's client.
1:54:54She's married to Russ.
1:54:55I don't think you know him.
1:54:57You probably met him at one of the little parties.
1:55:00You know Bud Meade, the guy from SDM.
1:55:08That's the one.
1:55:09You know this one, too.
1:55:10She's here with her husband and two little girls.
1:55:15She gave them a special tour.
1:55:17No, she saw it on your back.
1:55:19Why don't you go out and forget that the photographer hasn't come in?
1:55:36Well, is that going to hold you up tonight?
1:55:39It's all right.
1:55:42It won't be no problem.

Nixon & Woods on State dinners and Guest lists

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