Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 712 › Conversation 712-004

Nixon, MacGregor & Bull on Sequoia and Executive travel

Tuesday, April 18, 1972 · 4:56 PM–5:00 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; MacGregor, Clark; Butterfield, Alexander P.Conversation712-004 on Tape 712 (tape position 01:06:31–01:08:22)StartTuesday, April 18, 1972 at 4:56 PMEndTuesday, April 18, 1972 at 5:00 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 712-004 ↗

President Nixon coordinated with staff members Stephen Bull, Clark MacGregor, and Alexander Butterfield to arrange a private trip aboard the presidential yacht, the Sequoia. The participants finalized the logistics for a late afternoon departure and dinner, while also briefly discussing the timing of an urgent telephone call to be placed by the President. These arrangements were intended to facilitate an informal meeting away from the office.

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1:06:44Would you see if they could get the Sequoia?
1:06:49I'm not sure it is available.
1:06:53Sequoia is available.
1:07:00Yeah.
1:07:01Hello?
1:07:03Yeah, hi, Clark.
1:07:05Are you in your office?
1:07:06Oh, come on over a minute.
1:07:08Fine, fine.
1:07:13Mr. President, you said 5.3, you'd like to leave here?
1:07:16You know, leave here, so we'll be there about 5.5.
1:07:20Yeah, I will, yeah.
1:07:23I guess, you know, we could have figures of one or two, maybe two.
1:07:27So I'm just going to take a look at that.
1:07:32All right.
1:07:32So you don't want to sell?
1:07:34Huh?
1:07:34You don't want to sell?
1:07:35They can be prepared to sell.
1:07:37Oh, yeah, I'm going to have a couple of parts on.
1:07:47I know, but he wants to make this call tonight, so...

On April 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Clark MacGregor, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:56 pm and 5:00 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 712-004 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 712-4

Date: April 18, 1972
Time: Unknown between 4:56 pm and 5:03 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       Sequoia
            -Availability
            -Arrangements

The President talked with Clark MacGregor between 5:00 and 5:01 pm.

[Conversation No. 712-4A]

[See Conversation No. 23-23]

[End of telephone conversation]

       Sequoia arrangements
            -Time
            -Dinner
            -Sailing

The President left at an unknown time before 5:03 pm.

Alexander P. Butterfield entered at an unknown time after 5:01 pm.

       The President's schedule
            -Sequoia trip
                  -Time
            -Telephone call

Bull and Butterfield left at an unknown time before 5:03 pm.
  • 023-022 4:56 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:56 pm and 5:00 pm.
  • 712-002 4:56 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Manolo Sanchez, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:56 pm and 5:00 pm.
  • 712-003 4:56 PM · 35 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:56 pm and 5:00 pm.
  • 023-023 5:00 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Clark MacGregor talked on the telephone from 5:00 pm to 5:01 pm.
  • 712-005 5:01 PM · 19 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:01 pm and 5:03 pm.
  • 712-006 5:01 PM · 30 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Manolo Sanchez, Clark MacGregor, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:01 pm and 5:33 pm.
  • 023-024 5:32 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:32 pm and 5:33 pm.
  • 712-007 5:32 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:32 pm and 5:33 pm.

Conversation 712-004, April 18, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/712-004 (accessed October 12, 2026).