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Nixon & Woods on White House administration and Robert Gray

Thursday, December 28, 1972 · 3:45 PM–4:00 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose MaryConversation380-038 on Tape 380StartThursday, December 28, 1972 at 3:45 PMEndThursday, December 28, 1972 at 4:00 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 380-038 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, discussed administrative arrangements regarding the President's upcoming schedule and specific documentation. The pair addressed the logistics of a planned helicopter flight and the handling of materials related to Robert Gray. Nixon directed Woods to leave the documents in his office so he could review them personally upon his return.

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All right, but don't do it.
No, I've heard.
No, no, no, no, no.
Leave them here.
I thought they were, I remember you just told me who they were in front of you.
I thought Bob Grant said something.
Right.
Yeah.
Well, leave them here, and I'll put, I'll see what I can do about it.
No, I've heard.
Keep them there, folks.
Keep them there, and I'll look at them when I get back, when I get back.
Thank you.

NARA Description

On December 28, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:45 pm and 4:00 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 380-038 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 380-38

Date: December 28, 1972
Time: Unknown between 3:45 pm and 4:00 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Rose Mary Woods.

       The President’s schedule
            -Items to work on
                  -Helicopter flight
                  -Robert Gray

Also recorded on December 28, 1972

  • 035-032 3:25 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:25 pm and 3:35 pm.
  • 035-033 3:35 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 3:35 pm to 3:36 pm.
  • 380-035 3:35 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:35 pm to 3:36 pm.
  • 035-034 3:43 PM · 2 min — Col. Richard T. Kennedy and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone from 3:43 pm to 3:45 pm.
  • 380-036 3:43 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Col. Richard T. Kennedy met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:43 pm to 3:45 pm.
  • 380-037 3:45 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:45 pm and 4:00 pm.
  • 035-035 4:00 PM · 15 min — Henry A. Kissinger and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone from 4:00 pm to 4:15 pm.
  • 380-039 4:00 PM · 7 min — Henry A. Kissinger and President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:00 pm to 4:15 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 380-038, December 28, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/380-038 (accessed October 10, 2026).