Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 719 › Conversation 719-021

Nixon & Butterfield on H.R. Haldeman and L. Patrick Gray III

Thursday, May 4, 1972 · 1:21 PM–1:24 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.Conversation719-021 on Tape 719 (tape position 03:21:35–03:22:53)StartThursday, May 4, 1972 at 1:21 PMEndThursday, May 4, 1972 at 1:24 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 719-021 ↗

President Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield held a brief, informal meeting in the Oval Office to coordinate the President's upcoming schedule and administrative logistics. The discussion touched upon the scheduling of meetings with H.R. Haldeman and Ronald Ziegler, as well as the timing of an announcement regarding L. Patrick Gray III. The participants also briefly exchanged remarks concerning public perception and the management of office materials.

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3:21:38I was able to help you.
3:21:40Sure, it's a great following.
3:21:46I appreciate it.
3:21:48And don't worry, we take care of these comments.
3:21:59All right, thank you.
3:22:00Yes, sir.
3:22:01Thank you.
3:22:02Bye.
3:22:02Bye.
3:22:02See you later.
3:22:25Oh, we should get rid of the stuff around here, don't we?
3:22:28Yes, sir, but it's a lot of mileage.
3:22:30They just think you do.
3:22:32They do love me.
3:22:33Take a moment to watch.
3:22:36They're just a banger.
3:22:37Well, Denise Montana makes a bargain that makes about $4.00 and $4.00 and $0.35.
3:22:42People hesitate even to put a cigarette out and put it out of display.

On May 4, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:21 pm and 1:24 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 719-021 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 719-21

Date: May 4, 1972
Time: Unknown after 1:21 pm and before 1:24 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Alexander P. Butterfield.

     President's schedule
          -Meeting with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                 -Location
                 -Executive Office Building [EOB]
          -L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III announcement
          -Meeting with Ronald L. Ziegler

Butterfield left at an unknown time before 1:24 pm.
  • 719-018 12:51 PM · 57 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:51 pm and 12:56 pm.
  • 719-019 12:56 PM · 26 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Frank E. Fitzsimmons, Raymond Schoessling, Joseph Trerotola, William J. McCarthy, Welon L. Mathis, Charles W. Colson, White House photographer, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:56 pm to 1:21 pm.
  • 719-020 1:21 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:21 pm and 1:24 pm.
  • 719-022 1:24 PM · 26 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:24 pm to 1:51 pm.
  • 719-023 1:51 PM · 1 min — United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 1:51 pm on May 4, 1972 and 8:44 am on May 5, 1972.
  • 023-151 1:52 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:52 pm and 2:51 pm.
  • 334-037 1:52 PM · 3 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:52 pm and 2:51 pm.
  • 334-038 1:52 PM · 19 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:52 pm and 2:51 pm.

Conversation 719-021, May 4, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/719-021 (accessed October 12, 2026).