Conversation 730-013

Audio for this conversation has not yet been released by the National Archives.

On June 12, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, Donald F. Rodgers, Michael P. Balzano, White House photographer, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:30 pm to 4:09 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 730-013 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 730-13

Date: June 12, 1972
Time: 3:30-4:09 pm.
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Charles W. Colson, Donald F. Rodgers, and Michael P. Balzano.

[Members of the press and the White House photographer were present at the beginning of the
meeting.]

     Greetings

     Photograph session

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    Busing
         -Presidential actions
               -Detroit
               -Pittsburgh
               -Higher education bill
                     -Public relations efforts
               -Timing of actions
               -Public relations
         -Michigan
               -Robert P. Griffin
               -Administration intervention
         -Constitutional amendment
         -Richard G. Kleindienst
               -Confirmation
               -Intervention in busing cases
         -Higher education bill
               -Liberals
         -Detroit, Pittsburgh, Connecticut, Ohio
               -Balzano’s efforts
               -Importance of issue

    Balzano’s speech
         -New York
               -Edward C. Nixon
                    -Appearance
         -The President’s policies
               -Response

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     Balzano and Rodgers
          -Ages
               -The President’s recollections
                    -Thomas E. Dewey
               -The President’s advice

     Youth and American success
          -Protests
          -Attitudes
          -California
          -Texas
          -Midwest
          -East
          -Students for a Democratic Society [SDS]
          -Liberal faculties
                -Balzano’s view

     Irving Kristol book [The Democratic Ideal in America]

An unknown man [Stephen B.]entered at an unknown time after 3:30 pm.

     Kristol book

Unknown man [Bull?]left at an unknown time before 4:09 pm.

     Kristol book
           -Political views
           -Critique of contemporary society

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     Kristol book presentation
           -Uses
                 -Balzano
           -Patrick J. Buchanan
                 -Background
                 -Education
                 -Analysis of book
                 -Changing philosophies
                       -Achievement ethic
                 -Ethnics
                       -Attitudes
          -Busing
                 -Study by Harvard professor
                 -Blacks
                 -Impact
                 -Liberal attitudes

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     Secretary James D. Hodgson
          -Speech in New York
                -Rule of government
                -Peter J. Brennan

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     Role of government
          -Extent
          -Welfare
          -Education
          -Housing
          -Extent
          -Emergencies
          -South Dakota
                -Flooding
          -The President’s view
          -Freedom and democracy
                -People's Republic of China [PRC]
                -Poland
                -Soviet Union
                     -The President’s previous trip
                     -Leningrad
                     -Kiev
                           -Ukrainians
                -Poland
                     -Response to the President's trip
                     -Germans
                     -Russians
                     -The President’s previous trip

          Canada

     Presidential gifts

     Brennan
          -Qualities
          -American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations [AFL-CIO]
          -Background
               -Building trades
                     -George Meany

Colson, Rodgers, and Balzano left at 4:09 pm.