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Conversation 740-004

TapeTape 740StartThursday, June 22, 1972 at 4:06 PMEndThursday, June 22, 1972 at 4:35 PMTape start time01:02:12Tape end time01:30:49ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Krol, John Cardinal;  Gurash, John;  Colson, Charles W.;  Cashen, Henry C., II;  Bull, Stephen B.Recording deviceOval Office
AI Summary

President Nixon met with John Cardinal Krol, John Gurash, and White House aides to discuss mobilizing support for government aid to private religious schools. The participants strategized on generating backing from various religious groups, distributing reports to key business and political leaders, and navigating the legislative and judicial challenges surrounding education funding. They further analyzed the political importance of key states such as New York, Pennsylvania, and Ohio, ultimately emphasizing the need for broad public relations efforts and candidate commitments to advance their policy goals.

Private school fundingReligious outreachPolitical strategyEducation policySupreme CourtElection politics
Audio

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NARA Description

On June 22, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, John Cardinal Krol, John Gurash, Charles W. Colson, Henry C. Cashen, II, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:06 pm to 4:35 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 740-004 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 740-4

Date: June 22, 1972
Time: 4:06-4:35 pm.
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John Cardinal Krol, John Gurash, Charles W. Colson, and Henry C.
Cashen II.

[Members of the press and the White House photographer were present at the beginning of the
meeting.]

      Greetings

      Report for the President

      Arrangements for photograph

      Aid to private religious schools
           -Philadelphia Evening Bulletin
           -Philidelphia
                 -Jews
                 -Protestants
           -Catholics

                          (rev. Feb-02)

       -Colson
             -Non-Catholics
-Religious leaders group
       -Support
             -Quakers
-Report
       -Time of preparation
       -Distribution
             -Congressmen
             -Business and Labor Leaders
             -Editors
             -Platform committees of parties
                  -Opposition
-Administrative support
       -Tax incentives
       -Administrative efforts
             -Public relations
       -Candidates for office
             -Commitments
             -State-level candidates
       -Supreme Court
             -Warren E. Burger
                  -Colson
                         -The President’s view
       -Courts
-Senate Education Committee
       -Testimony
-Supreme Court
       -Problems
-Public opinion
-Columbia Broadcasting System (CBS) documentary
       -Frank Stanton
-Summary of report
-Press briefing
       -New York Times
-James Cardinal McIntyre
       -Position on issue
       -Bishop Timothy Manning
-Critical states
       -New York
       -Pennsylvania
       -Ohio
       -Illinois

                                        (rev. Feb-02)

                   -Michigan
                   -California

     Gifts

     Golf
             -The President's game

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 4:06 pm.

     Gifts
             -Golf balls
             -Ashtrays

Bull left at an unknown time before 4:34 pm.

     Golf
             -The President's games

     Gifts
             -Ashtrays

     The President's law firm

     Gifts
             -Ashtray
             -Presentation
             -Golf balls
                   -Seal
                   -Spiro T. Agnew

Bull was present at an unknown time after 4:06 pm.

     Golf balls
          -Number
          -Seal

Bull left at an unknown time before 4:34 pm.

     Golf
             -Putting
             -Jack Nicklaus
                   -Game against Arnold Palmer

                                          (rev. Feb-02)

      Meeting
          -Publicity

      An election in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
           -A defeat

      Unknown person
          -Friendship with McIntyre
          -Work with the President
          -Religion
          -Work with McIntyre

Krol, et al., left and Alexander Butterfield entered at 4:35 pm.

      The President’s schedule

Butterfield left at 4:35 pm.
Transcript

No transcript is available for this conversation.

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