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Conversation 774-010

TapeTape 774StartMonday, September 11, 1972 at 11:23 AMEndMonday, September 11, 1972 at 11:34 AMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Train, Russell E.;  Butterfield, Alexander P.;  Bull, Stephen B.;  White House photographerRecording deviceOval Office
AudioNARA Description

On September 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Russell E. Train, Alexander P. Butterfield, Stephen B. Bull, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:23 am to 11:34 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 774-010 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 774-10

Date: September 11, 1972
Time: 11:23 am - 11:34 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Russell E. Train and Alexander P. Butterfield.

         Train's forthcoming trip to Soviet Union
            -Alaska

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:23 am.

                                       (rev. Oct-06)

         Press coverage of meeting

Members of the press and the White House photographer entered at an unknown time after 11:23
am.

         Soviet Union

         Environmental issues

Bull, members of the press and the White House photographer left at an unknown time before
11:34 am.

         Environment
            -Department Of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
            -Soviet Union
                -Train's forthcoming meeting with Soviet officials
                     -The President's interest in environmental issues
                     -US - Soviet Union relations
                     -The President's meetings with Leonid I. Brezhnev, Nikolai V. Podgorny,
                     and Alexsei N. Kosygin
                     -The President's trip to the Soviet Union
                          -Signing of environmental agreement
                -Pipeline
                     -Permafrost
                -Los Angeles
                     -Air quality
                          -Automobile emissions
                -Forests
                     -White birch trees
                -Train's delegation on trip
                     -Shirley Temple Black
                     -National Wildlife Federation director
                     -Sierra Club
                          -[Michael McCloskey]
                              -The President's previous trip to San Francisco
                     -Suggested actions during trip
                -Television productions
                     -Black
                     -The President's trip to the Soviet Union
                -Itinerary

                                            (rev. Oct-06)

                      -Moscow, Leningrad
                      -Lake Baikal
                      -Siberia
                           -Novosibirsk
                               -Swan Lake
                      -Leningrad, Moscow
                      -Caucausus Mountains
                      -Mrs. Train
                  -Soviets
                      -Nikita S. Khrushchev
                  -People's Republic Of China [PRC]
                  -Soviet performance at Olympics

          1972 Olympics
             -The President's call to Chris Schenkel
                  -American Broadcasting Corporation [ABC]
             -US Olympic Committee
                  -Disqualified runners [Wayne Collett, Vince Matthews]
             -Patriotism
             -Future of Olympics

          Train's forthcoming trip to Soviet Union
             -Food
                   -Caviar
                       -Article by unnamed psychiatrist

Train and Butterfield left at 11:34 am.
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Yes, this has been checked over very carefully.
That's all I got.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Sure, thank you.
Not a great deal.
There are some areas where we can work on that.
They're quite expert in the Arctic pipeline problems, for example, where we hope we can learn how to deal with that permafrost problem in ways which they know.
But they're very leery of giving us away.
They are.
Well, one minute.
I grew up in Los Angeles area.
When there was no smog, there would be none.
Back in the 90s and 30s, it became a problem in the 40s and 50s without no bills.
So they must have been cities.
And so the candidates for smog, you know, overworked.
They've done very good planning on this too.
And they can stop right now.
see if their cars are ones that are more polluted.
They're taking two private conservation organizations, the Wildlife Federation, which is a very conservative group, and the old friends they see are a group.
But their head is a conservative man.
We'll see you next time.
they can and talk to their opposite numbers.
Make book of them.
That's why I think it's very important.
You never know who's going to go to the top in these countries.
Make book of them.
In other words, give very thorough reports as to what this person was like and what they say, what they do.
Very good thing to do.
Don't spend your time talking to each other.
Get around.
Concede.
Move around.
Do what you think is right.
And move with your past beliefs, your opposites.
They just didn't .
They came over here and said that she's not .
And they're telling me .
And she's about .
You know, things of that sort.
But also, .
Well, you've, of course, been there before.
No, I have not.
You didn't go on an earlier trip?
No, I didn't.
I had a great time.
Which cities?
Going to Moscow.
I'm hoping to get out to Lake Baikal and go to Siberia for a bit.
Oh, you've got to go to Siberia, because it's a different part of the world.
You might say that I strongly recommend it, because I know people there that should go to Siberia, because it's so interesting.
No, Siberia's the brand new city.
Go out and see the castles.
Go out and see the castles.
The Russians are terribly complex.
They're not as bad as Khrushchev was.
I understand.
I had a great time.
The best thing to do is get there.
It's good for you.
It is, but very good for you.
Very good for you.
And also, it has no, particularly for stress.
I once read an article on stress.
once.
You don't have to stress about this.
Caviar and champagne, the only problem is that you can't pay them when the bill comes.
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