Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 786 › Conversation 786-019

Nixon, Dent & Young on 1972 election and Republican candidates

Monday, September 25, 1972 · 12:33 PM–12:48 PM ET · Oval Office · 2 min

President Nixon met with a group of Republican political candidates and advisor Harry Dent to discuss campaign strategy and national policy. The discussion touched upon shared military experiences in the South Pacific during World War II, as well as current political issues in South Carolina. The participants specifically focused on the administration's foreign policy initiatives regarding China, the Soviet Union, and Japan, framing them as key themes for the upcoming election.

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Really?
Is that right?
Oh, it's 1943 or 4, that period.
And you know what I was saying, New Zealanders were there.
We were scathing.
We were scathing.
They had everything in that one pile of water.
Everybody was taking that.
And you were taking that and all this turning yellow.
Yeah, yeah.
And it would take some light and you'd stand up against that tree out there with those jacket boots on.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you know, it's hard to realize that that was 20 years ago.
Yeah, 20 years ago.
28 years ago.
Well, we have been, I'm sure.
They're going to live.
The Green Island, the Green Island Massacre.
Get the national events on there.
South Carolina, the three national events.
You know, all that sort of stuff.
We were on the right side of that.
Well, that's something else.
Any kind of apartment could be opened up in China and Russia and Japan.
That's right.
And it's going to go up.
Believe me.
And you would not afraid to go into these places.
Right.

On September 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Republican candidates including Ed Young, Charles Conrad, Luther Hackett, Martin Linski, Henry Povinelli, Joel Pritchard, Meldrim Thomson, Jr., William Hunt, Wesley Powell, Mario Belardino, Richard Rittenband, and Harry S. Dent, as well as the White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:33 pm to 12:48 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 786-019 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 786-19

Date: September 25, 1972
Time: 12:33 pm - 12:48 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Ed Young, Charles Conrad, Luther Hackett, Martin Linski, Henry
Povinelli, Joel Pritchard, Mel Thomson, William Hunt, Wesley Powell, Mario Belardino,
Richard Rittenband, and Harry S. Dent; the White House photographer was present at the
beginning of the meeting.

            Greetings

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 11m 5s     ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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            The President's and Young’s previous Navy service
                -Green Island
                    -P-39s
                    -1944
                    -New Zealand
                    -South Pacific Combat Air Transport Command [SCAT]
                    -Life magazine

             Issues in South Carolina
                 -National defense
                 -Permissiveness
                 -Tobacco
                      -The President’s People's Republic of China [PRC] initiative
                      -Soviet Union
                      -Japan

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 2m 37s     ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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Young et al. left at 12:48 pm.
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Conversation 786-019, September 25, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/786-019 (accessed October 12, 2026).