Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 797 › Conversation 797-021

Nixon & Warren on James S. Copley and White House logistics

Friday, October 13, 1972 · 4:04 PM–4:05 PM ET · Oval Office · 41 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Warren, Gerald L.Conversation797-021 on Tape 797StartFriday, October 13, 1972 at 4:04 PMEndFriday, October 13, 1972 at 4:05 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 797-021 ↗

President Nixon met with Deputy Press Secretary Gerald L. Warren to briefly review the logistics and personnel involved in a recent visit from James S. Copley. The discussion touched upon the duration of the meeting, the physical appearance of the attendees, and the roles of associated individuals including Helen Copley and Victor H. Krulak. The exchange served as a debriefing regarding the administrative and personal aspects of the encounter.

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Now, his wife, Alice, was with him.
She couldn't do good.
And his daughter-in-law, a man, Doc, who left, you know,

On October 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Gerald L. Warren met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:04 pm and 4:05 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 797-021 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 797-21

Date: October 13, 1972
Time: Unknown between 4:04 pm and 4:05 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Gerald L. Warren.

         The President's schedule
             -James S. Copley
                 -Meeting duration
                 -Physical appearance
                 -Helen (Kinney) Copley
                 -Victor H. Krulak
                      -US Marines Corps

Warren left at 4:05 pm.
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Conversation 797-021, October 13, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/797-021 (accessed October 10, 2026).