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Nixon & Bull on 1973 Appropriations Act and Signing ceremony

Tuesday, October 31, 1972 · 11:36 AM–11:43 AM ET · Oval Office · 50 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation810-005 on Tape 810StartTuesday, October 31, 1972 at 11:36 AMEndTuesday, October 31, 1972 at 11:43 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 810-005 ↗

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to coordinate the logistics for the upcoming signing ceremony of the 1973 Appropriations Act. The discussion focused on locating Alexander P. Butterfield to confirm the status of the legislation and determining the appropriate timing for the event. The participants also considered the necessity of an official photograph session to accompany the signing process.

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Sorry, Mr. President, I think Alex is... Must have gone to the washroom.
I'm just checking with the washroom.
Oh, that's a problem.
All right.
If I could, did they want us to have the signing on it so you know that... Well, I don't know, because I don't exactly know.
It's just influence.
No, I'm fine, but I...
But he has the bill ready.
Yes, sir, he has the...
I believe what is in that package is fine.
Oh, it's really fine.
It may be that they left you on the tree.
Listen to me, my sir.
It may be that they left you on the tree.
Two-thirty.

On October 31, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:36 am and 11:43 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 810-005 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 810-5

Date: October 31, 1972
Time: Unknown between 11:36 am and 11:43 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

             Forthcoming signing ceremony of 1973 Appropriations Act
                 -Alexander P. Butterfield’s location
                 -Timing
                 -Possible photograph session

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:43 am.
  • 810-003 11:36 AM · 31 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:36 am and 11:43 am.
  • 810-004 11:36 AM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:36 am and 11:43 am.
  • 810-006 11:43 AM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:43 am and 11:53 am.
  • 810-007 11:43 AM · 52 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:43 am and 11:53 am.
  • 810-008 11:53 AM · 37 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:53 am and 11:54 am.
  • 378-006 11:54 AM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:54 am and 11:56 am.
  • 810-019 11:54 AM · 9 sec — United States Secret Service agents and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:54 am and 2:38 pm.
  • 378-007 11:56 AM · 31 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 11:56 am to 1:05 pm.

Conversation 810-005, October 31, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/810-005 (accessed October 5, 2026).