Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 862 › Conversation 862-011

Nixon & Bull on Ambassador John A. Volpe and Norman Vincent Peale

Friday, February 23, 1973 · 12:30 PM–12:31 PM ET · Oval Office · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; [Unknown person(s)]Conversation862-011 on Tape 862StartFriday, February 23, 1973 at 12:30 PMEndFriday, February 23, 1973 at 12:31 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 862-011 ↗

President Nixon briefly met with Stephen B. Bull and an unidentified man in the Oval Office to discuss arrangements for upcoming meetings and events. Key topics included the President's meeting with Ambassador John A. Volpe, arrangements for Norman Vincent Peale's visit (including breakfast and a sermon), and the involvement of actors like Debbie Reynolds and John Gielgud. The conversation also touched upon Mrs. Nixon's departure and a meeting in the outer office.

  • Ambassador John A. Volpe
  • Norman Vincent Peale
  • Debbie Reynolds
  • John Gielgud
  • Arrangements
  • Upcoming meetings
  • Mrs. Nixon's departure

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All right, we have here next to the screen here.
Yeah, they're here.
They're all set.
If you want to do it right before Master Holden, you're in the cabinet.
That's where I go to?
Yeah.
All right.
If you'd like to do that before Master Holden.
Yes, I'll do that first.
Where is it?
I want to know.
Do you have the pens?
I want to give them the pens.
Both pens.
Both of them.
Well, we have a question here.
I was going to ask you a question.
This station has been advised that you're leaving at 5.30, so you should watch your step.
and have this meeting that could be the first one they make.
I don't think they're going out there to have a company meeting.
Well, that's for four people.
The other, I'll respond.
And I think it might be a good situation to meet in my conference room.
I'll probably be inside the conference room.
Dr. Peel and Mrs. Peel will be coming tomorrow night.
They understand that you and Mrs. Peel, they're probably coming by 9 o'clock, but we're waiting for them.
Then what you do is you wait and they have breakfast by themselves.
And that way, you don't get a certain director.
And with the actors, with the extras.
She's got her daughter coming.
Yes, sir.
That's her husband.
That's her husband.
Yeah.
She's got her daughter coming.
It's a 16-year-old girl.
Yeah.
And many parents.
Because Mike Neal doesn't come to movies here.
Who is this?
John Neal, the producer, director.
She's the great Hamlin star.
Jake's in English.
But anyway, she's a, she, uh, she's been a good supporter, right?
But she did so well in the show.
you better come in with that note

On February 23, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:30 pm and 12:31 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 862-011 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 862-11

Date: February 23, 1973
Time: Between 12:30 pm and 12:31 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull and an unknown man.

       President's meeting with Ambassador John A. Volpe, Mardi Gras queen
              -Cabinet Room
              -Press
              -Gifts
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                            Conversation No. 862-21 (cont’d)

       Thelma C.(“Pat”) Nixon
             -Departure

       Meeting in outer office
             -Joe D. Waggamer, Jr.

       President's meeting with Norman Vincent Peale
              -Time
              -Arrangements
                      -Breakfast
                      -Sermon
              -Actors
                      -Debbie Reynolds
                             -Daughter
                             -Husband
                      -John Gielguld

       Debbie Reynolds
             -Support for the President

       Volpe
               -Meeting with President
                      -Length

       Call to Mrs. Nixon

Bull and the unknown man left at 12:31 pm.
  • 862-012 12:31 PM · 24 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:31 pm to 12:32 pm.
  • 043-182 12:32 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone from 12:32 pm to 12:33 pm.
  • 862-013 12:32 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:32 pm to 12:33 pm.
  • 043-183 12:33 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:33 pm and 3:02 pm.
  • 862-014 12:33 PM · 19 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:33 pm and 12:51 pm.
  • 862-015 12:51 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John A. Volpe, White House photographer, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:51 pm to 12:57 pm.
  • 862-023 12:55 PM · 1 min — unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:55 pm and 12:57 pm.
  • 862-016 12:57 PM · 40 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John A. Volpe, Henry A. Kissinger, Manolo Sanchez, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:57 pm to 1:37 pm.

Conversation 862-011, February 23, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/862-011 (accessed October 1, 2026).