Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 890 › Conversation 890-004

Nixon & Bull on California trip and Norman Chandler

Friday, March 30, 1973 · 8:50 AM–9:07 AM ET · Oval Office · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation890-004 on Tape 890StartFriday, March 30, 1973 at 8:50 AMEndFriday, March 30, 1973 at 9:07 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 890-004 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull reviewed the President’s upcoming schedule and logistics for his trip to California. The discussion focused on coordinating a visit with Norman Chandler, including health considerations relayed by Rose Mary Woods, and finalizing plans for a dinner honoring John Ford. Additionally, they addressed the timing and location for a meeting with George P. Shultz and state legislators.

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I think we better not do it.
Just forget it right now.
If I do it on a special day, I'm going to do it on a Saturday.
I'm going to be out there doing it.
But in order to keep the show to me, to put it in time for you.
I just wanted to tell you that he knows that you might not go to the state.
Yeah, yeah.
He's going to use that as the example.
10 o'clock.
10 o'clock.
He'll just come in and say early in this case because .

NARA Description

On March 30, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:50 am and 9:07 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 890-004 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 890-4

Date: March 30, 1973
Time: Unknown between 8:50 am and 9:07 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       President’s schedule
             - Visit with Norman Chandler
                    -Suggestions by Rose Mary Woods
                          -Health of Chandler
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                             Conversation No. 890-4 (cont’d)

                        -President’s trip to California
                              -Dinner for John Ford
             -Meeting with George P. Shultz
                  -Length
                  -Thomas Hart
             -Meeting with state legislators
                  -Location
                        -Dining room

Bull left at an unknown time before 9:07 am.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 890-004, March 30, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/890-004 (accessed October 5, 2026).