Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 44 › Conversation 044-065

Nixon phone call with Bull on Richard G. Kleindienst and California trip

Thursday, March 29, 1973 · 9:06 AM–9:08 AM ET · White House Telephone · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation044-065 on Tape 44StartThursday, March 29, 1973 at 9:06 AMEndThursday, March 29, 1973 at 9:08 AMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 044-065 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon instructed his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to postpone their upcoming California departure time from 1:00 PM to 3:00 PM to accommodate a meeting with Attorney General Richard Kleindienst. Nixon prioritized securing additional time for this discussion, even if it required coordinating around Kleindienst's subsequent travel obligations to New York. He ultimately delegated the scheduling finalization to Bull, authorizing the 1:00 PM departure only if the 3:00 PM adjustment proved unfeasible.

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Hello.
Yes, sir, Steve Ball.
Steve, on that departure tomorrow, I want you to check to see whether on Clyndy's it's necessary to get out there that early in the afternoon.
I would like to do, I've got two things I'd like to do here that would take me until about 3 o'clock.
I'd prefer to leave at 3 rather than 1.
Let me explain the situation in a word.
The reason that they wanted to go out earlier was that Clyndy's has to come back to New York.
I understand.
Yes, sir.
Now, my view is that he probably can come back later in the day so that if we can, for the latest possible departure, allowing me to see Klein, because there's nothing else I have to do in California, you see, that night.
All right, sir.
Fine.
So I'll need about an hour to an hour and a half with him out there.
We can have a meeting and get him away, but don't get frozen on 1 o'clock if we can do it at 3, say.
All right, sir.
I'll report back around noon then, so I won't be interrupting you.
Well, just work it out.
Either way.
I mean, you don't need to report back.
If you can't do it, I'll go at 1.
All right, sir.
That date is set, but you make the decision.
Yes, sir.
But if it can go at 3 and take care of him, in other words, 3 puts us out there by 5, 5.30, and have a meeting with him for a couple hours, and then he takes off.
That'll make it fine.
All right, sir.
Fine.
Fine.
It'll be a good date.
Fine.
But if you can't, it's one.
Okay.
All right, sir.
Fine.

NARA Description

On March 29, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:06 am and 9:08 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 044-065 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 044-065

Date: March 29, 1973
Time: 9:06 am-9:08 am

       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542

Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Stephen B. Bull.

[See also Conversation No. 424-17]

       President's schedule
             -Trip to California
             -Richard G. Kleindienst's schedule
                    -New York

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 044-065, March 29, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/044-065 (accessed October 1, 2026).