Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 891 › Conversation 891-005

Nixon & Scowcroft on John B. Flynn and White House security

Monday, April 9, 1973 · 4:39 PM–5:03 PM ET · Oval Office · 14 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Scowcroft, Brent G. (Gen.)Conversation891-005 on Tape 891StartMonday, April 9, 1973 at 4:39 PMEndMonday, April 9, 1973 at 5:03 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 891-005 ↗

President Nixon and General Brent Scowcroft met to discuss the disposition of a sensitive file concerning General John B. Flynn. The primary focus of the brief exchange involved the secure handling and internal administrative routing of this documentation. The discussion resulted in the retrieval of the file for storage within the President's personal safe.

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I said that the folder went out.
I want to spit it back in my safe to reset it.

On April 9, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:39 pm and 5:03 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 891-005 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 891-5

Date: April 9, 1973
Time: Unknown between 4:39 pm and 5:03 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft.

     Folder on Gen. John B. Flynn

Scowcroft [?] left at an unknown time before 5:03 pm.
  • 891-002 3:01 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:01 pm to 3:03 pm.
  • 891-003 3:03 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:03 pm and 3:31 pm.
  • 891-004 3:31 PM · 1 hr 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon, James B. Stockdale, Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:31 pm to 4:39 pm.
  • 891-006 4:39 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:39 pm and 5:03 pm.
  • 044-113 5:03 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:03 pm and 6:13 pm.
  • 891-007 5:03 PM · 1 hr 44 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John B. Flynn, Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft, White House photographer, Manolo Sanchez, White House operator, and James Keogh met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:03 pm to 6:21 pm.
  • 044-114 6:13 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and James Keogh talked on the telephone from 6:13 pm to 6:15 pm.
  • 891-008 6:21 PM · 32 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 6:21 pm and 6:29 pm.

Conversation 891-005, April 9, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/891-005 (accessed October 12, 2026).