Nixon White House Tapes ›Tape 13 › Conversation 013-064

Nixon phone call with Ziegler on William P. Rogers

Tuesday, November 2, 1971 · 9:19 AM–9:20 AM ET · White House Telephone ·1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.Conversation013-064 onTape 13 (tape position 02:32:45–02:33:54)StartTuesday, November 2, 1971 at 9:19 AMEndTuesday, November 2, 1971 at 9:20 AMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 013-064 ↗

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President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler coordinated the timing of a post-meeting press briefing for Secretary of State William P. Rogers, ensuring his availability following a morning session. The two also discussed the logistical preparations for First Lady Pat Nixon’s upcoming trip, which required final clearance from the National Security Council. Nixon directed Ziegler to coordinate with Connie Stuart and hold a joint announcement regarding the trip to ensure the presentation was handled effectively.

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Yeah.

Yes, sir.

Yeah, I think when we, I don't know what the situation will be with Rogers, but I think he may be available to come out when he finishes today.

We'll determine it after we finish.

Is the briefing at normally 11 o'clock?

Well, we'd be prepared for him to come out at about 10 or so, 10 or 10.15, right after the meeting.

Well, the meeting is scheduled at 9.30.

It's 9.30, but it'll last probably until 9, until 10.15, 10.32.

but he would be prepared in the event that he is fired.

Now, on the Mrs. Nixon trip, have you got...

Yes, sir.

I stopped by to see you last night to tell you that in talking to the NSC, they had to double-check a couple of things with the other country.

I see.

And we are expecting word back from them today, and as soon as we get it back, we will announce it.

I'm sorry to... Yeah, incidentally, when you do that, in order to save the face of the...

On the east wing thing, why don't you just have them come over with you?

Oh, sure.

I'll coordinate it with Connie very closely.

Have her come over so you can make a joint announcement.

Okay.

Good.

Yes, sir.

NARA Description

On November 2, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 9:19 am to 9:20 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 013-064 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 13-64

Date: November 2, 1971
Time: 9:19 am - 9:20 am
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.

[See Conversation No. 611-2B]

     William P. Rogers’ schedule
          -Press briefing

     Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon's trip
          -National Security Council [NSC] efforts
          -Ziegler's announcement
               -Constance M. Stuart
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                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)

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611-002 8:43 AM · 56 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 8:43 am to 9:32 am.
611-003 9:32 AM · 1 hr 11 min — President Richard M. Nixon and William P. Rogers met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:32 am to 10:45 am.
611-004 10:50 AM · 10 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:50 am to 10:59 am.
611-005 10:59 AM · 1 hr 24 min — President Richard M. Nixon, William McMahon, and Oliver F. ("Ollie") Atkins met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:59 am to 12:24 pm.
611-006 12:24 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:24 pm and 12:27 pm.
611-007 12:27 PM · 27 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:27 pm and 12:31 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 013-064, November 2, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/013-064 (accessed September 18, 2026).