Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 15 › Conversation 015-157
Nixon phone call with MacGregor on Tax Bill and Presidential Veto
Monday, November 29, 1971 · 3:08 PM–3:11 PM ET · White House Telephone
AI Summary
President Nixon and Clark MacGregor discussed the congressional reaction to MacGregor’s recent statement regarding the administration’s tax bill and the potential for a presidential veto. The conversation touched upon concerns regarding the Pastore amendment and the need to coordinate with key legislative figures like John W. Byrnes. Additionally, they assessed the political implications of securing television time to advocate for the administration’s tax reform goals.
- Tax Bill
- Presidential Veto
- Congressional Relations
- Pastore Amendment
- Media Strategy
Audio
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NARA Description
On November 29, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Clark MacGregor talked on the telephone from 3:08 pm to 3:11 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 015-157 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 15-157
Date: November 29, 1971
Time: 3:08 pm - 3:11 pm
Location: White House Telephone
The President talked with Clark MacGregor.
[See also Conversation No. 306-8]
Congressional reaction to MacGregor's statement on Tax Bill
-John W. Byrnes
-Call from William E. Timmons
-Call from Paul Hope of Washington Star
-Possible veto
-Pastore amendment
Television
-Free time
-John B. Anderson
-Tax systemAlso recorded on November 29, 1971
- 015-156 1:46 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:46 pm and 3:08 pm.
- 306-004 1:46 PM · 1 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:46 pm and 3:08 pm.
- 306-005 1:46 PM · 4 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:46 pm and 3:08 pm.
- 306-008 3:08 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Clark MacGregor met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:08 pm to 3:11 pm.
- 306-009 3:11 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:11 pm and 3:53 pm.
- 306-010 3:11 PM · 2 hr 16 min — President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:11 pm and 5:39 pm.
- 015-158 3:53 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and John D. Ehrlichman talked on the telephone at 3:53 pm.
- 015-159 4:00 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:00 pm and 4:52 pm.
Cite this conversation
Conversation 015-157, November 29, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/015-157 (accessed October 9, 2026).