Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 19 › Conversation 019-145

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on George P. Shultz

Thursday, January 27, 1972 · 3:07 PM ET · White House Telephone · 14 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); White House operatorConversation019-145 on Tape 19StartThursday, January 27, 1972 at 3:07 PMEndThursday, January 27, 1972 at 3:07 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 019-145 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon received an update from the White House operator regarding the location of Office of Management and Budget Director George P. Shultz, who was currently testifying on Capitol Hill. Upon learning that Shultz would not return until late afternoon, the President declined the offer to track him down. Nixon decided to pursue an alternative method for handling the matter instead of waiting for Shultz's return.

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Yeah.
Mr. President, Mr. Schultz is testifying on the hill.
He'll be back in the office about 4.
Should I try to locate him, or...?
Oh, uh, no, not necessary.
I'll handle it another way, thank you.
All right.

NARA Description

On January 27, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 3:07 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 019-145 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 19-145

Date: January 27, 1972
Time: 3:07 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The White House operator talked with the President.

[See Conversation No. 658-29]

     George P. Shultz's location

Also recorded on January 27, 1972

  • 658-026 2:50 PM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, Stephen B. Bull, and George Meany met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:50 pm to 3:00 pm.
  • 019-143 2:56 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and George Meany talked on the telephone from 2:56 pm to 3:00 pm.
  • 019-144 3:00 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:00 pm and 3:07 pm.
  • 658-027 3:00 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:00 pm and 3:07 pm.
  • 658-028 3:00 PM · 25 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:00 pm and 3:07 pm.
  • 658-029 3:07 PM · 22 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at 3:07 pm.
  • 658-030 3:07 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:07 pm and 3:13 pm.
  • 658-031 3:13 PM · 33 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, unknown person(s), and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:13 pm to 3:46 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 019-145, January 27, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/019-145 (accessed October 12, 2026).