Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 658 › Conversation 658-027

Nixon & Bull on Henry Kissinger and Defense budget

Thursday, January 27, 1972 · 3:00 PM–3:07 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation658-027 on Tape 658 (tape position 04:44:52–04:47:27)StartThursday, January 27, 1972 at 3:00 PMEndThursday, January 27, 1972 at 3:07 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 658-027 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with aide Stephen B. Bull to coordinate his daily schedule and upcoming meetings. The discussion centered on finalizing a 3:30 p.m. appointment and arranging for Henry Kissinger to brief the President on recent diplomatic talks with Canadian officials. Additionally, the pair touched upon scheduling a small press panel event and addressed the President’s ongoing interest in the defense budget.

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4:44:55Do you still want to go at least another big time?

4:45:01Yeah, about 3.30 I think.

4:45:03We'll just have helicopters in here then, so we can do 3.30.

4:45:10Yeah, yeah.

4:45:11With regard to... One per day.

4:45:15Tomorrow we have a press panel.

4:45:17It's a very small event, but we'd like to have it.

4:45:25I understand you feel a lot better.

4:45:31Oh, that's right.

4:45:33That's right.

4:45:34Let me tell you, it doesn't put a burden on you about the things that I think might be useful for your information.

4:45:45I'd be glad to have Henry drop over and give you a sort of behind-the-scenes analysis of those talks that he had with an army of Canadians.

4:45:59Yes.

4:46:35Ja.

4:46:36Ja.

4:46:37Ja.

4:46:38Ja.

4:46:39Ja.

4:47:00Yes, yes.

4:47:07Oh, why?

4:47:08Yes, yes, that was it.

4:47:10The other one, that which is directly related to us will not be created with time.

4:47:15I know that you're interested in the defense budget, and the...

NARA Description

On January 27, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:00 pm and 3:07 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 658-027 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 658-27

Date: January 27, 1972
Time: Unknown between 3:00 pm and 3:07 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     The President’s schedule
          -Meeting with Henry A. Kissinger

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:07 pm.

Also recorded on January 27, 1972

658-026 2:50 PM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, Stephen B. Bull, and George Meany met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:50 pm to 3:00 pm.
019-143 2:56 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and George Meany talked on the telephone from 2:56 pm to 3:00 pm.
019-144 3:00 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:00 pm and 3:07 pm.
658-028 3:00 PM · 25 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:00 pm and 3:07 pm.
019-145 3:07 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 3:07 pm.
658-029 3:07 PM · 22 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at 3:07 pm.
658-030 3:07 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:07 pm and 3:13 pm.
658-031 3:13 PM · 33 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, unknown person(s), and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:13 pm to 3:46 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 658-027, January 27, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/658-027 (accessed October 12, 2026).