Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 23 › Conversation 023-017

Nixon phone call with Laird on Vietnam War and Military policy

Tuesday, April 18, 1972 · 9:55 AM–9:56 AM ET · White House Telephone · 59 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Laird, Melvin R.Conversation023-017 on Tape 23StartTuesday, April 18, 1972 at 9:55 AMEndTuesday, April 18, 1972 at 9:56 AMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 023-017 ↗

President Nixon and Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird coordinated their public response to a New York Times report falsely claiming that U.S. bombing in Vietnam had been reduced for diplomatic purposes. Nixon directed Laird to aggressively deny these reports to maintain strategic ambiguity, stressing the importance of this stance for ongoing diplomatic efforts. Laird confirmed that he had already refuted the story during recent testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee and had prepared a media clip to ensure the denial reached a wider audience.

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Mr. President, I have Secretary Laird for you.
Yeah.
Right.
Oh, hello.
Mr. President.
Hi, Mel.
I didn't want to bother you before testimony, but there was a story which you will probably be asked about that I just read in the Times this morning out of Saigon to the effect that we were cutting down on the bombing and so forth and waiting for a political reaction.
As we were talking yesterday, I want you to take a line that, you know, knocking that down and saying, look, this is a, we are...
we're going to do what is necessary and so forth.
You know what I mean?
I think the main thing I want you to keep everybody guessing because it's very important in terms of our diplomatic game right now.
Mr. President, I'll hit him very hard.
I've already been before the Senate Armed Services Committee and they made a film clip which will be used very soon in which I said that there was absolutely no truth to the story.
Great.
All right.
All right.
Fine.
All right.
I won't bother you anymore.
Bye.

On April 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Melvin R. Laird talked on the telephone from 9:55 am to 9:56 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 023-017 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 23-17

Date: April 18, 1972
Time: 9:55 am - 9:56 am
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Melvin R. Laird.
[See also Conversation No. 711-3D]

     Vietnam
          -Laird's testimony
                -News story in New York Times
                      -Bombing cutbacks
                      -Laird's response
                            -Diplomacy
                -Senate Armed Services Committee
                      -Statement
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  • 711-002 9:18 AM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:18 am and 9:20 am.
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  • 023-016 9:27 AM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 9:27 am.
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Conversation 023-017, April 18, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/023-017 (accessed October 12, 2026).