Nixon White House Tapes ›Tape 38 › Conversation 038-007

Nixon phone call with Ehrlichman on Executive communication

Friday, April 13, 1973 · 5:07 PM–5:08 PM ET · White House Telephone ·14 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Ehrlichman, John D.Conversation038-007 onTape 38StartFriday, April 13, 1973 at 5:07 PMEndFriday, April 13, 1973 at 5:08 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 038-007 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and John Ehrlichman held a brief telephone exchange to coordinate their schedules amidst ongoing White House activities. The primary purpose of the call was to arrange a follow-up conversation once Ehrlichman concluded his current tasks. No substantive policy matters were discussed, as the interaction served solely as a logistical coordination for a later communication.

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Well, yes, sir.
Want to call me back?
We're still going.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'll call you back as soon as I'm clear.
Right.

NARA Description

On April 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman talked on the telephone from 5:07 pm to 5:08 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-007 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 38-7

Date: April 13, 1973
Time: 5:07pm - 5:08 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with John D. Ehrlichman.

     Ehrlichman’s schedule
           -Return telephone call

Also recorded on April 13, 1973

  • 895-023 4:22 PM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:22 pm to 4:41 pm.
  • 895-024 4:31 PM · 11 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Joseph J. Sisco, Henry A. Kissinger, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:31 pm to 4:41 pm.
  • 038-006 4:42 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:42 pm and 5:07 pm.
  • 038-008 5:08 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:08 pm and 5:48 pm.
  • 038-009 5:48 PM · 10 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 5:48 pm to 5:58 pm.
  • 038-010 5:58 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:58 pm and 6:00 pm.
  • 038-011 6:00 PM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, and Manolo Sanchez talked on the telephone from 6:00 pm to 6:07 pm.
  • 038-012 6:16 PM · 15 min — John D. Ehrlichman and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone from 6:16 pm to 6:31 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 038-007, April 13, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-007 (accessed September 18, 2026).