Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 38 › Conversation 038-024

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Stephen B. Bull

Saturday, April 14, 1973 · 10:50 AM–11:33 AM ET · White House Telephone · 13 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; [Unknown person(s)]Conversation038-024 on Tape 38StartSaturday, April 14, 1973 at 10:50 AMEndSaturday, April 14, 1973 at 11:33 AMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 038-024 ↗

President Nixon consulted with the White House operator to facilitate a telephone call to his aide, Stephen B. Bull. Following the connection, the President engaged in a brief, confidential conferral with an unidentified individual regarding his personal knowledge of an unspecified matter. The exchange served primarily as a logistical bridge for administrative communication and a subsequent private discussion.

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On April 14, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:50 am and 11:33 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-024 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 38-24

Date: April 14, 1973
Time: Unknown between 10:50 am and 11:33 am
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with the White House operator.

     Telephone call to Stephen B. Bull

The President conferred with an unknown person.

[Conversation 38-24A]

[Begin conferral]

     President’s knowledge

[End conferral]
  • 428-019 8:53 AM · 3 hr 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, Elliot L. Richardson, Stephen B. Bull, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, John W. Dean, III, Henry A. Kissinger, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 8:53 am to 12:30 pm.
  • 038-019 8:54 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Elliot L. Richardson talked on the telephone from 8:54 am to 8:56 am.
  • 038-020 9:00 AM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:00 am and 10:49 am.
  • 038-021 10:49 AM · 21 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 10:49 am to 10:50 am.
  • 038-022 10:50 AM · 21 sec — John D. Ehrlichman and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:50 am and 11:30 am.
  • 038-023 10:50 AM · 33 sec — John D. Ehrlichman, John W. Dean, III, and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:50 am and 11:30 am.
  • 038-025 11:33 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and unknown person(s) talked on the telephone from 11:33 am to 11:34 am.
  • 038-026 12:30 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:30 pm and 12:53 pm.

Conversation 038-024, April 14, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-024 (accessed October 21, 2026).