Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 38 › Conversation 038-160

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Ronald L. Ziegler

Wednesday, April 25, 1973 · 8:23 PM–9:07 PM ET · White House Telephone · 12 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); White House operatorConversation038-160 on Tape 38StartWednesday, April 25, 1973 at 8:23 PMEndWednesday, April 25, 1973 at 9:07 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 038-160 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon utilized the White House operator to place a telephone call to Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler. This interaction served as an administrative bridge to establish communication with a key advisor during the ongoing political developments of the Watergate scandal. No substantive policy discussions were recorded, as the conversation was limited to the technical facilitation of the connection.

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NARA Description

On April 25, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:23 pm and 9:07 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-160 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 38-160

Date: April 25, 1973
Time: Unknown between 8:23 pm and 9:07 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with the White House oerator.

     Telephone call to Ronald L. Ziegler

Also recorded on April 26, 1973

  • 038-157 7:46 PM · 8 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 7:46 pm to 7:53 pm.
  • 038-158 7:53 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 7:53 pm and 8:20 pm.
  • 430-037 7:53 PM · 36 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 7:53 pm and 8:20 pm.
  • 430-038 7:53 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 7:53 pm and 8:20 pm.
  • 038-159 8:20 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Richard G. Kleindienst talked on the telephone from 8:20 pm to 8:23 pm.
  • 430-039 8:20 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Richard G. Kleindienst met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 8:20 pm to 8:23 pm.
  • 430-040 8:23 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:23 pm and 8:41 pm.
  • 430-041 8:23 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:23 pm and 8:41 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 038-160, April 26, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-160 (accessed October 5, 2026).