Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 43 › Conversation 043-174

Nixon phone call with Bull on Richard G. Kleindienst and Crime policy

Thursday, February 22, 1973 · 3:16 PM–3:17 PM ET · White House Telephone · 47 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation043-174 on Tape 43StartThursday, February 22, 1973 at 3:16 PMEndThursday, February 22, 1973 at 3:17 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 043-174 ↗

President Nixon directs Stephen Bull to schedule an unannounced meeting for the following morning with Attorney General Richard G. Kleindienst. Nixon specifies that he wishes to meet with Kleindienst alone to discuss the administration's crime policy. Although Bull suggests a public announcement for the meeting, the President emphasizes the need for a private, thirty-minute consultation.

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Sir, Steve, would you see if... We have nothing at 10 o'clock tomorrow, have we?
No, sir.
See if a client could come over to him.
I'd just like to have a talk with him about a half hour.
Do you want John Ehrlichman there, sir?
No, just him alone.
Unannounced, sir?
Unannounced.
No, I think it should be announced.
He just...
He's coming over, yes.
I just want to discuss our crime program.
All right, sir, fine.
But I want to talk to him alone about it.
All right, very good, sir.
Thank you.

On February 22, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 3:16 pm to 3:17 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 043-174 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 43-174

Date: February 22, 1973
Time: 3:16 pm - 3:17 pm
Location: White House Telephone
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                             Conversation No. 43-172 (cont’d)

The President talked with Stephen B. Bull.

[See Conversation No. 411-18E]

       The President’s schedule
            -Richard G. Kleindienst
                  -Possible meeting
                  -John D. Ehrlichman
                  -Public announcement
                         -Crime policy
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  • 043-176 3:17 PM · 2 min — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman and William E. Timmons talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:17 pm and 4:04 pm.
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Conversation 043-174, February 22, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/043-174 (accessed October 1, 2026).