Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 164 › Conversation 164-053

Nixon phone call with Camp David operator on Barry M. Goldwater and Camp David

Monday, April 30, 1973 · 4:20 PM–5:49 PM ET · Camp David Study Table · 13 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Camp David operatorConversation164-053 on Tape 164StartMonday, April 30, 1973 at 4:20 PMEndMonday, April 30, 1973 at 5:49 PMRecording deviceCamp David Study TableSourceNixon Library record for 164-053 ↗

President Nixon contacted the Camp David operator to facilitate an outgoing call to Senator Barry Goldwater. This administrative communication served to establish a line of contact between the President and the Senator during a period of intense political pressure. No further substantive policy matters were discussed during this brief request.

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Senator Goldwater please.
Thank you sir.

On April 30, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 4:20 pm and 5:49 pm. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 164-053 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 164-53

Date: April 30, 1973
Time: Unknown between 4:20 pm and 5:49 pm
Location: Camp David Study Table

The President talked with the Camp David operator.

     Request for telephone call
          -Barry M. Goldwater
  • 164-052 4:20 PM · 44 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at 4:20 pm.
  • 164-054 5:49 PM · 32 sec — Camp David operator and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at Camp David at 5:49 pm.
  • 164-055 5:50 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone at Camp David from 5:50 pm to 5:51 pm.
  • 164-056 5:52 PM · 20 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods talked on the telephone at Camp David from 5:52 pm to 5:53 pm.
  • 164-057 5:54 PM · 24 sec — Ronald L. Ziegler and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at Camp David from 5:54 pm to 5:55 pm.
  • 164-058 6:04 PM · 13 sec — Rose Mary Woods and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at Camp David from 6:04 pm to 6:05 pm.
  • 164-059 6:11 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at 6:11 pm.
  • 164-060 6:11 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 6:11 pm and 6:50 pm.

Conversation 164-053, April 30, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/164-053 (accessed October 12, 2026).