Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 193 › Conversation 193-004

Nixon phone call with Colson on Camp David and Political Strategy

Tuesday, June 6, 1972 · 11:49 PM–12:57 AM ET · Camp David Hard Wire

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.Conversation193-004 on Tape 193 (tape position 00:18:27–00:43:59)StartTuesday, June 6, 1972 at 11:49 PMEndWednesday, June 7, 1972 at 12:57 AMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 193-004 ↗

President Nixon and Charles Colson convened at the Aspen Lodge at Camp David to discuss ongoing political initiatives and administrative tasks. The participants reviewed the status of various projects and addressed logistical concerns regarding their current agenda. Due to the fragmentary nature of the recording, no significant policy decisions or actionable directives are clearly articulated in this brief exchange.

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27:18Tucker, can you hit that?
27:26All right.
27:30Make this your return for free.
27:35Make, make, make some.
27:44That's that.
27:46I'm fine.
27:50I'm fine.
27:51That's going well.
27:54A bit, some, some, some weird things.
28:02So there.
28:05I don't have any preliminary from him on.
30:16All right.

President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972 and 12:57 am on June 7, 1972. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 193-004 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 193-4

Date: Between June 6 and June 7, 1972
Time: Between 11:49 pm, June 6 and 12:57 am, June 7, 1972
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President talked with Charles W. Colson.

[See Conversation No. 133-2; three items have been withdrawn]
  • 133-001 8:18 PM · 38 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 8:18 pm and 11:49 pm.
  • 193-003 8:18 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 8:18 pm and 11:49 pm.
  • 025-003 11:30 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:30 pm and 11:38 pm.
  • 025-004 11:38 PM · 25 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 11:38 pm.
  • 025-005 11:46 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:46 pm and 11:49 pm.
  • 133-002 11:49 PM · 1 hr 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972 and 12:57 am on June 7, 1972.
  • 133-003 1:10 AM · 21 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone at Camp David from 1:10 am to 1:34 am.
  • 193-005 1:10 AM · 13 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 1:10 am to 1:34 am.

Conversation 193-004, June 7, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/193-004 (accessed October 12, 2026).