Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 193 › Conversation 193-005

Nixon phone call with Colson on Camp David and Presidential living quarters

Wednesday, June 7, 1972 · 1:10 AM–1:34 AM ET · Camp David Hard Wire

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.Conversation193-005 on Tape 193 (tape position 00:43:59–00:57:05)StartWednesday, June 7, 1972 at 1:10 AMEndWednesday, June 7, 1972 at 1:34 AMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 193-005 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Charles Colson met at Camp David to discuss personal matters, specifically the physical modification or maintenance of wood materials within the lodge study. The brief exchange focused on structural adjustments rather than policy or political strategy. No significant administrative decisions were recorded during this late-night interaction.

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Transcript (AI-generated)

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57:16No, I took some of the wood out.

NARA Description

On June 7, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 1:10 am to 1:34 am. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 193-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 193-5

Date: June 7, 1972
Time: 1:10-1:34 am
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President talked with Charles W. Colson.

[See Conversation No. 133-3; one item has been withdrawn.]

Also recorded on June 7, 1972

  • 133-001 8:18 PM · 38 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 8:18 pm and 11:49 pm.
  • 193-003 8:18 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 8:18 pm and 11:49 pm.
  • 025-003 11:30 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:30 pm and 11:38 pm.
  • 025-004 11:38 PM · 25 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 11:38 pm.
  • 025-005 11:46 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:46 pm and 11:49 pm.
  • 133-002 11:49 PM · 1 hr 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972 and 12:57 am on June 7, 1972.
  • 193-004 11:49 PM · 26 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972 and 12:57 am on June 7, 1972.
  • 133-003 1:10 AM · 21 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone at Camp David from 1:10 am to 1:34 am.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 193-005, June 7, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/193-005 (accessed October 12, 2026).