Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 198 › Conversation 198-008

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Camp David

Saturday, July 29, 1972 · 10:18 AM–10:25 AM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 14 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation198-008 on Tape 198StartSaturday, July 29, 1972 at 10:18 AMEndSunday, July 30, 1972 at 10:25 AMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 198-008 ↗

President Richard Nixon met with First Lady Pat Nixon in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David for a private discussion. Although the specific content of the conversation was withdrawn from the public record due to its personal nature, the meeting represents a documented exchange between the President and the First Lady during a working weekend. No substantive policy developments were recorded as part of this interaction.

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President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 10:18 am on July 29, 1972 and 10:25 am on July 30, 1972. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 198-008 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 198-8

Date: Unknown between July 29 and 30, 1972
Time: Unknown between 10:18 am, July 29 and 10:25 am, July 30, 1972
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President met with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

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[Duration: 23 s ]

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Mrs. Nixon left at an unknown time before 10:25 am, July 30, 1972.
  • 138-001 8:29 PM · 14 sec — Unknown person(s) and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 8:29 pm on July 28, 1972 and 9:54 am on July 29, 1972.
  • 198-001 8:30 AM · 17 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 8:30 am and 9:54 am.
  • 138-006 9:00 AM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:00 am and 10:25 am.
  • 138-003 9:54 AM · 21 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone at Camp David from 9:54 am to 10:07 am.
  • 138-004 10:07 AM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:07 am and 10:09 am.
  • 138-005 10:09 AM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone at Camp David from 10:09 am to 10:18 am.
  • 138-007 10:25 AM · 19 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at 10:25 am.
  • 138-008 10:28 AM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at 10:28 am.

Conversation 198-008, July 29, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/198-008 (accessed October 12, 2026).