Conversation 232-007

TapeTape 232StartWednesday, November 29, 1972 at 10:10 AMEndWednesday, November 29, 1972 at 1:47 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Colson, Charles W.Recording deviceCamp David Hard Wire

On November 29, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:10 am and 1:47 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 232-007 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 232-7

Date: November 29, 1972
Time: Unknown between 10:10 am and 1:47 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President talked with Charles W. Colson.

[See Conversation No. 156-14]

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Yeah.
Oh.
Uh, Donald, you got Brandon lost, right?
I mean, you, but the main thing is you made the necessary calls to me.
I mean, it shows to me that you called the restaurant.
You covered yourself for me.
I wasn't able to get a fan story.
Well, I guess that's all right.
And signal.
Oh, good, good.
Good.
Well, they seem as pleased.
Right, right, right, right, right, right.
Now, we're on at 12, middle of the marble, all over the middle of it.
And I want you and him and
I'm going to be very busy there because I've got shows all morning on economics, and I've got Connelly, and I've got Henry Saturday.
But I want you and, if you and Hurley, and you and Hull, and Hurley and Hurley, to a large extent, it would be suggestive to sit down and work out some of the game plans with regard to the, not only the outside operation, but also the political cloud in the house, and the way how it's like people are going to do, what kind of a facility we're going to have.
You've got the time, haven't you?
What I mean, there isn't really anything we have to do right now.
Now the brand has launched.
Yeah, well, they'll discuss that.
I don't understand how that affects them.
They're so busy with each other.
That's where they're on the track, you know.
Oh, listen.
I'm telling you.
Mary was a hell of a time client.
Do you want to keep Griswold?
Yes, isn't Griswold 70?
Get that letter to Erwin, please.
I tried to get that thing to him.
It just showed you exactly what he's up to.
I'm keeping him for a reason.
He has an issue with hearing.
When they come out on the count, have we ever got the final count yet?
Yeah, we've had so many.
When they certify, now does this include the absentee?
You see, some of these people, okay.
You can throw down all that, I know.
61.1, but we don't know whether it's 61.101 or 61.008.
What we want to do is shade it a little bit.
Why is it going to be done?
No stories have been written about it.
I think that's one hell of a big boost in the end.
Don't you agree?
All right.
I'm getting bored, right?
I wanted to get some of the positive with that, but I guess you got the negative first.
Good, that's fine, that's fine with me.
I'm not reading file before.
Frankly, I'm not reading into the summary because I've got to concentrate on more important things.
Right.
Well, if you get on the plane and then, as I said, I won't see any of you, as a matter of fact, but I want you to get down there
I want you to work up the list of people to stay the hell out.
I want you to get up what we're going to do in the foundation.
I want you to work on the business about who we keep in.
I want you to get down to these people.
You know what I mean?
You know the things to do.
Fine.
Because everybody is all quick and long now.
Now that we got past the big ones.
I took Brenninger today.
Brenninger is good because we just had to have somebody to
I hope he's agreed to take it away.
So that takes care of that.
But Greiniger is an Irish Catholic from California.
Hell yes.
Hell yes.
Yeah.
An Irish Catholic from California.
That's right.
Yeah.
And so, Megan, this is one that we just can't talk about because of goals.
But with Scalia, do you have
You've got three.
You've got two Democrats and three Catholics.
No, four of them.
Good.
Well, I didn't want you to because I want you both to all do under that and I'm out of it.
But remember, be sure the South gets in there.
Be sure women get in there.
There's one...
Feel good about going on.
Good.
This feels good.
Hall.
Hall.
Good.
I gave yesterday.
I said, no, Jerry, he's close to Hall.
You can work it out with all of us in terms
Okay, bye.