Nixon White House TapesTape 26 › Conversation 026-012

Haldeman & Ziegler on Richard Nixon and Baseball

Tuesday, June 27, 1972 · 12:03 PM–1:36 PM ET · White House Telephone

ParticipantsHaldeman, H. R. ("Bob");  Ziegler, Ronald L.Conversation026-012 onTape 26 (tape position 00:12:06–00:14:27)StartTuesday, June 27, 1972 at 12:03 PMEndTuesday, June 27, 1972 at 1:36 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 026-012 ↗

H. R. Haldeman and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler coordinate to gather specific biographical and statistical data for President Nixon regarding his list of all-time baseball greats. The conversation focuses on verifying the careers and performance records of pre-war relief pitchers, specifically Hugh Casey, Mace Brown, and Doc Crandall. Haldeman also tasks Ziegler with identifying the first name of a prominent Pittsburgh relief pitcher named Face to finalize the President's personal list.

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12:01Ziggler, os gwelwch.
12:03Iawn, Prif Weinidog.
12:03Ziggler, os gwelwch.
12:16Ron?
12:17Iawn, Prif Weinidog.
12:17Mae'r Prif Weinidog wedi dweud i chi beth oedd y ffitio llawr i'r Llywodraeth Cymru cyn-war.
12:22Ychydig munud.
12:23Roedd y memw yn dod i mewn, gadewch i mi gael hi i mewn.
12:28O, ble mae'r memw honno?
12:31Wel, gadewch i mi roi copi o hwn yn gyflym.
12:34Ydych chi eisiau i mi ei roi drwy?
12:35Na, dweud wrthi i mi.
12:35Wel, mae gen i dri sylwadau.
12:37Ydych chi eisiau i mi roi copi o hwn yn gyflym.
12:38Ydych chi eisiau i mi ei roi drwy?
12:39Na, dweud wrthi.
12:39Wel, mae gen i dri sylwadau.
12:42Ydych chi eisiau i mi ei roi drwy?
12:44Ydych chi eisiau i mi ei roi drwy?
12:47Ydych chi eisiau i mi ei roi drwy?
12:49Ydych chi eisiau i mi ei roi drwy?
12:50Ydych chi eisiau i mi ei roi drwy?
12:52Ydych chi eisiau i mi ei roi drwy?
12:54Ydych chi eisiau i mi ei roi drwy?
12:55Ydych chi
12:56Nawr, rydw i wedi cael eu rhaglenni, maen nhw eisiau mynd i edrych arnyn nhw.
12:59Mae ganddyn nhw'r rhaglenni os ydych chi eisiau.
13:01Ydych chi eisiau iddyn nhw ddod â nhw i mewn?
13:04Pwy yw Doc Crandall?
13:06Doc Crandall... Doc Crandall yw un o'r... Doc Crandall yw rhaglenni'r Giants New York.
13:12Giants, rhaglenni.
13:14Crandall oedd yn y bôn yn gychwyn.
13:15Roedd yn gychwyn?
13:17Yn enwedig yn ei hwynau gorau.
13:18Yn ei hwynau gorau, iawn.
13:20Beth am Casey?
13:22Huw Casey, pa un sy'n dod ychwanegol yn y recordiau?
13:26Wel, Mace Brown, 176 a gafodd 57.
13:27Brown, 176 a gafodd 57?
13:29Ie.
13:29Beth oedd Casey?
13:30Doc Crandall, 106 a gafodd 61.
13:31Crandall oedd 106, 61.
13:32Beth oedd Casey?
13:33Casey, 175 a gafodd 42.
13:33175, 42.
13:34Felly mae ganddyn nhw'r record llwyddiant gorau.
13:51Beth yw'r enw o'r Pitchburg Relief Pitcher?
13:54Fface, beth yw ei enw cyntaf?
13:57Mace Brown?
13:58Mace Brown.
13:59Nid yw'r enw o'r Pitchburg Relief Pitcher.
14:02Mae ei enw diwethaf yn Fface.
14:03Dwi ddim yn gwybod, Bob.
14:04Dwi ddim yn gwybod beth yw'r enw o'r Pitchburg Relief Pitcher.
14:07Dwi ddim yn gwybod beth yw'r enw o'r Pitchburg Relief Pitcher.
14:10Dwi ddim yn gwybod beth yw'r enw o'r Pitchburg Relief Pitcher.
14:12Dwi ddim yn gwybod beth yw'r enw o'r Pitchburg Relief Pitcher.
14:13Dwi ddim yn gwybod beth yw'r enw o'r Pitchburg Relief Pitcher
14:18Pitched about 1950 for Pittsburgh.
14:20But he wanted pre-war.
14:23That's where I'm asking a different question now.
14:25Okay.
14:26What is the first name of the Pittsburgh relief pitcher whose last name is Face?
14:30All right, fine, good.
14:31What is his first name?
14:33Right on.
14:33Get that right for you.
14:34Roger.
14:40Ziegler, please.
14:40Ziegler.

On June 27, 1972, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:03 pm and 1:36 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 026-012 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 26-12

Date: June 27, 1972
Time: Unknown between 12:03 and 1:36 pm
Location: White House Telephone

H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.

[See Conversation No. 743-6C]

     The President’s baseball greats list
          -Pre-war relief pitcher
               -Hugh Casey
               -Mace Brown
               -“Doc” Crandall
               -Records
               -Crandall
                     -New York Giants
               -Casey
               -Brown's record
               -Crandall's record

                                          (rev. Jan-02)

                 -Casey's record
           -Pittsburgh relief pitcher
                 -Elroy Face
  • 103-009 11:28 AM · 5 min — a White House tour group met in the Cabinet Room of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 11:28 am on June 27, 1972 and 10:05 am on June 30, 1972.
  • 103-012 11:28 AM · 1 min — a White House tour group met in the Cabinet Room of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 11:28 am on June 27, 1972 and 10:05 am on June 30, 1972.
  • 743-004 11:28 AM — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:28 am and 11:30 am.
  • 743-005 11:30 AM — President Richard M. Nixon, Elliot L. Richardson, John S. Millis, Theodore Cooper, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., James H. Cavanaugh, White House photographer, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:30 am to 11:57 am.
  • 743-006 11:57 AM — President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Alexander P. Butterfield, unknown person(s), Henry A. Kissinger, Ronald L. Ziegler, Manolo Sanchez, and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:57 am and 1:50 pm.
  • 026-011 12:03 PM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:03 pm and 1:36 pm.
  • 026-013 12:03 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:03 pm and 1:36 pm.
  • 026-014 1:36 PM · 24 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 1:36 pm to 1:37 pm.

Conversation 026-012, June 27, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/026-012 (accessed September 18, 2026).