On July 20, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:10 pm to 3:35 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 263-005 of the White House Tapes.
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Two things.
Walter saw the Chinese ambassador and sent a message to him saying that Bruce was going to come out of October.
Sadly, you won't believe how difficult.
I called without prior announcement that the residents of my house were the ones to check.
I was obviously expected to tell anyone, so I was initially received by the ambassador's secretary.
After tea and sweets, the ambassador arrived, accompanied by his first secretary.
The ambassador said he had retired from the team the previous evening, and agreed to hold that, which I'll talk to him today after.
and I had told him that the board had been called on Monday.
He complimented me on my discretion in coming early today as a dentist rather than to the Chancellor.
He said he was glad to talk to me about it, as he too had been the Chancellor.
The ambassador said that Dr. Kiskeler had done very good in the end, and he was a man who knew the value of discretion.
And I've mentioned discretion so often that I'm really fond of it.
by that kind of way, they could be, we're kind of like, we are pretty well on our part, you know, but it's too much for them, because I saw, they just can't understand that, because I saw, I had to go and I,
for the federal transit.
And so said, can't you not just speak to the government?
And I said, we can't do it.
But I think what I think of as a government speculation is that we're going to just cool everybody down and go ahead.
And I think that's good.
We've got to keep hammering.
We cannot kill our friends.
It's bad that I said that, just because I'm thinking of it.
I didn't have to send a message.
and requested that he transmitted the fragments to a driver who was passing through the security.
He said it was not what the advisor had said then.
Then he said that when advising his brother, he could be here dedicated, that he might come and see the advisor in person.
He asked if this would work for him.
He would appreciate the advice and advice he made, and the interview would be arranged immediately.
Dr. Kim, can I invite you to ask me a few questions?
If you could just transmit these questions directly to the Prime Minister and have the answer from Mr. Kim to Joe DeVito.
Thank you.
Do you need action?
And he then said he had a message that he wanted to hear from me.
He said, you know what, I can't write it, I couldn't press it, there's not many of them there.
Knowing that my heart beat was so crazy, I thought that was it.
And I went to try it.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Over a period of time, a number of U.S. political leaders have taken the main request for visits to China.
Now that the announcement to the ICC has been issued, it would be difficult for the Chinese government to work without the intervention of the U.S.
In any context, the Chinese side will naturally respond as much as it should.
But as I mentioned in the discussion,
What I've said in this session today is saying no to the testimony given to me recently.
Because that's my confession to the Queen.
To the saying that, and throwing it into the book, to say a saying to the Queen, and I haven't read the chapters before it, and I've spoken to her in other sessions, and I've said no.
And I've said something that I want to say to the Queen.
that messages were just one-eyed and said that they expected a message.
They must understand that they've become the subject of part of today's discourse, and the president's because of action, and he's a big service driver.
And I thought I'd call on this ambassador to talk to him, so I see him.
On the other side, and when I see that drop,
for them to gamble everything on one presidential candidate.
My instinct is that if they see any politician, they imagine it like it is none.
That is, they just won't have it.
That's the most vague and general way.
The problem, I guess, is that
I know the problem.
I can give you the transcript.
I've talked to him twice about it.
And I thought I had a lot of work to do.
But you opened the gates.
Nothing will change the fact that you've opened.
Calvary was in the city of .
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
One day, when we can, we sure are big.
I've been worried that with all the orgasms that's going on in this country, that our whole bargaining position has changed.
My guess is, I don't know what they're thinking of, but, you know, everyone is talking about Kennedy being nominated in China and Japan.
But there's no guarantee that Joe and I will be on the same page.
I've erased this message really sharply, but I thought I'd talk to him, which is gonna be easier than to put it in there.
We can talk, we can have a conversation, whatever.
What?
What?
I still think the big news is that you open it up and you'll be going there.
Yeah.
In a sense, for me, I think.
We'll be getting a chance to carry on with the project.
But our next test compares to those of the City of American President.
Yes, going to be big.
And it will still be brought into connection with the part that you opened it up.
I will try to discourage it as much as I can.
Well, I have not seen it.
You're safe.
What did I do?
You opened the door.
That's what we handle it from now on.
But I thought I would tell them sometimes that it isn't.
Not that it isn't.
Not that it isn't.
Our problem is how to handle the ride.
The more they get the time to feel identified with the policy.
That's something they understand.
Well, that's like an important thing.
I think you could also, I think you could say, too, that when you say, in objection to whatever they're saying, I think, I think they're concerned about whether or not they
I don't know what that means.
What Walter says, that's extreme cordiality to love.
Yeah, I don't know what that means.
I don't know what that means.
I don't know what that means.
I don't know what that means.
They are.
I mean, they mention the word expression in almost every paragraph.
They might not have counted on this in the moment.
I would say that the parade is so much more than just a parade.
All of the teams are going to be there to support our team.
We're not going to give you the money.
We're not going to give you the money.
We're not going to give you the money.
We're going to give you the money.
There's a lot of other people want to talk about the station this time.
I don't know.
I don't know what I should have been doing.
I should have been on it.
Let's take a look.
I don't know what you might think about it.
I'm checking it out.
I've already told them that I'm planning to come in October and I had told them originally that I would come about 8 weeks before the deadline gets really long.
I'll do it, but my strong instinct is that they, these guys, any human is enough.
Yeah, I mean, not eagles, because going to that place like eagles, because there's a problem at the house.
No, no, no.
You can see I'm not talking about eagles.
I'm talking about the factory.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Alright.
I'd like to have something .
I would say that intent is going to keep the ball around the court.
That too, no matter what's going on around there.
Although, just looking at it, you know that it's worse from the outside.
I would just like to say
What I have said is very sharp.
I've told him that with respect to his day, I'm going to send it to the agent to review the facts.
And I put it right after I sent it to the defense.
I said that it's something about his understanding of what I want.
So, the agent is going to do that.
And then I'm seeing him Sunday night, so that's what I'm going to do.
That's enough.
That's enough.
That's enough.
That's enough.
He wants to do a human interest story on Rogers, you and me, sitting in the bedroom, crying and shit.
And that, I don't think is, that's the thing.
Right goes to that one, right goes to that one.
That's right.
So I thought I'd put it more on you with me coming in.
But you could just say that that was, frankly, that was an enactment, that was not true.
I just thought it was a mockery of that.
I'm not going to explain.
Where is the link from?
I put out that you and I were in the middle of it.
I said whenever I discussed these matters with you, as you suggested, you'd make me come to the next meeting.
Because you didn't want the food in the envelope, and you wanted to be important, I didn't think something like that was nice.
I don't want you to, you know, fight over it, but just say that it's definitely not tough, okay?
I don't want, I don't want to make a big issue out of the fact that Roger is not involved.
He's someone who's not being held accountable.
So, you know, listen to me.
It'd be absurd, because he didn't even know it was coming up, and he didn't know what to say.
I mean, we don't want to say that.
But, I know, I know, I know.
That's the truth.
That's the truth.
No, no, no, no, no.
That's the truth.
I am sure of this, that I can keep them, insist that they keep the bus cut to the shore.
Well, maybe.
I'm pretty sure that I can keep them out of your hands.
No, I think they're just going to keep them out of your hands like they're supposed to be.
If they came in, it would be you and Father, and the President of the city, the President of the United States.
All of this would look to the public as if they're following in your tracks.
I, I can do that.
That's how it goes.
As a matter of fact, you open the door.
You open the door, and let's go in, and I'm sure they're not going to come in with that thing.
They have no idea who's in there.
We did keep them out.
I wouldn't care.
I don't think I would be cycling for a long time.
You and I compare positions.
I remember most of the time you were alone and I'd just see you and you'd ask me what would you tell me, what would be the other things that I'd say.
Yeah.
Let's see if there's any other lines, one way or the other.
Yeah.
Well, I would just say, let's just understand one thing.
The president's name, the president's charge, the president's directives belong to the office.
And of course, Secretary of State, you didn't tell me you were actually in the state.
President felt that the relations there had to be followed.
On that basis, I just noticed a little bit that we've done our own thing.
The president's got his first question of the month, and that's not it.
I'm glad that he doesn't have to tell you that.
It's all the same.
It's not like we were able to do that.
We don't have to be that damn generous.
We've told our own people.
It's like pain.
You have to talk.
You have to have affection for it.
Rogers, Marshall, Green, all those guys.
The next thing we know, they're at it.
I mean, that's true.
I think the idea, let's understand, is just the presence of pain.
I think that was good, Mr. President.
When do you finish with the meeting?
What time do you get through?
I'll see David Rockett right after the meeting.
But how about, would you say, about 4.30, how much time do you have to spend on each of these things?
Maybe 4.30.
I think, well, how did you get along with the conservatives?
Well, that was moved to Thursday.
Well, you didn't see any today.
No.
You'll see some tomorrow.
No, it turns out that Thursday.
For both.
Yeah.