Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 313 › Conversation 313-014

Nixon & Morton on State of the Union and Federal budget

Monday, January 10, 1972 · 2:58 PM–3:00 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Morton, Rogers C. B.Conversation313-014 on Tape 313 (tape position 00:14:21–00:16:23)StartMonday, January 10, 1972 at 2:58 PMEndMonday, January 10, 1972 at 3:00 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 313-014 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 417185557 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Secretary of the Interior Rogers C. B. Morton coordinate follow-up efforts involving John Irwin and Russ Crane regarding ongoing departmental interests. The discussion touches upon the scheduling of future administrative priorities in light of the President's current focus on drafting the State of the Union address and the federal budget. The two briefly deliberate on the placement of materials in the presidential library before concluding with a lighthearted exchange regarding Morton's professional conduct.

State of the Union
Federal budget
Presidential library
Department of the Interior
Administrative planning

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NARA Description

On January 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Rogers C. B. Morton met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:58 pm to 3:00 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 313-014 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 313-14

Date: January 10, 1972
Time: 2:58 pm - 3:00 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Rogers C. B. Morton.

[See Conversation No. 18-108]

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I thought you should know that my daughter, Julie, was talking on the phone today, and she said, you know, I want you to go back to your former president.

He said he's articulate, he's friendly, very good with the press, and people like him.

Oh, she thought it was great, and I think it's a very good way to really show the interest in that.

And then at a later point, of course, is after I get through with my time in the profile, I've got to do something, you know, I mean, a speed of light, which I know you were working on with what you're doing.

But I think

I think if you get there, maybe you and Russ Crane, and if you might, you, Russ Crane, and his group, maybe you just sort of follow up with the rest.

John Irwin and the rest.

I can't do anything, Brian, obviously, now that I'm here.

But then, April and May will be nice months.

We want to fill it in with good, active stuff.

Yeah, but maybe it would be a good idea.

That's a very good idea.

Yeah.

Good deal.

Fine, fine.

Okay, you're doing all right otherwise, huh?

Yeah.

Good behavior.

Yeah, okay, no choice, okay.

Also recorded on January 10, 1972

018-037 2:51 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:51 pm and 2:54 pm.
313-010 2:51 PM · 35 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:51 pm and 2:54 pm.
018-038 2:54 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 2:54 pm.
018-107 2:54 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:54 pm and 2:58 pm.
313-012 2:54 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 2:54 pm.
313-013 2:54 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:54 pm and 2:58 pm.
313-015 3:00 PM · 30 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:00 pm and 3:15 pm.
313-016 3:00 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:00 pm and 3:15 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 313-014, January 10, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417185557). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/313-014 (accessed November 13, 2026).