Nixon, Haig & Haldeman on Vietnam War and Foreign Policy

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Well, you must have had quite an experience.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, it's probably worth all your three years of work I'm going to go with you.

Everything is going all right.

I'm impressed to know that I'm going to have a...

I had a terrible war on.

I don't know if that's a question.

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They're going to write books.

And that's another way to do it.

But I don't know.

All right.

Come in.

Well, how are you?

Just fine, sir.

I had a great trip.

I'm just saying, I just called to say thank you.

I said it must have been worth your whole three years.

It was a great experience for you.

Oh, it was so nice.

Scallop.

John Scallop, please.

You must have had a hell of a career.

Well, it's a great appreciation of America.

I'll tell you that, sir.

It's a Sunday.

Oh, man, almost 20.

Terrible.

All the conferences I went to, this is just totally religious.

It's a lot of chores, activities.

And I think that's where you really get a picture of what this is all about.

It's just, there's no stage to do what we've done, what we've built.

That was a little issue, but that's what we are.

Well, but I think we need to be honest.

The substance is in very good shape.

I think that's what I want.

That's what we have to do.

We're going to have to negotiate it, but I think they're going to be reasonable.

They don't let the space out.

They know the space, and I know that if I got a PR to do that, it would be for us to do more things.

We've looked down on them a lot.

It's a standout that we have to expect.

Yes, we're going to have

There's been no contact.

Obviously, up to this point, there's been a series of stories.

The Chinese now have themselves in a reactionary posture.

Well, they're sensitive to that.

They have relations with Russian troops.

We, uh, you know, have a problem with the government.

It's, you know, concerned about the creditors and all that sort of thing.

And I think what could happen is that you have this period of time to take up as much of this time as you can with China.

And if you want positive things, the person must, as he is, must be in the world.

And I'm sure that when they talk about him, he's just going to go in and all that sort of thing.

And a much more serious story than he did in the previous year.

Hello?

I'm just sitting here with Al, and I said to him and you and he and Stigler, and now I've realized that coming to the White House is worth it after all.

Wasn't that really something?

For you, it was a useful event for you to go out with him.

Yeah, and you've got to get a feel of that in us.

Well, get a little sleep.

All right, I'm done.

I got that on a skeleton, and I said to my husband, Hunter, which we saw in Bill Krennic, in the time we met, one story I have before we met, in Washington, which drove, in that period of four days, they had a skeleton that played ball, an eight-grade ball field, but Bill did not want to live in the hand, because he didn't have any needs to realize it.

I think everybody around here is just scratching their heads.

They've got to climb on the television and look up at it.

Very well, yesterday, you probably know myself as someone who's a good model.

And frankly, by all means, we have to do what we can to serve the rest of the world.

By all means, we have to do what we can to serve the rest of the world.

We have to do what we can to serve the rest of the world.

We did come out on the winning side in the minors and people all over the world.

We started getting a lot more wins.

You know, we had to do it.

You know, at least West Pakistan is there to win this world.

I really believe that there is concern now that these colleagues have read all the questions for credibility.

I don't believe this is true, but I think the need for questions for credibility, I don't know, I don't really want to be treated like I don't have a question for credibility.

Our people are very patiently waiting for the person to say, well, you know what they're saying, this is what we were saying.

I'm going to make it so public that we weren't an item of interest privately.

You said you were an item of interest.

but not true at all, nor did anybody in the union.

And I let them know that we were doing it on the question of first, going to war, and second, continuing the war.

That's all.

I don't know what your reaction is, but I think this thing is really about as high as it's going to rise.

Actually, I think some of the people have peaked off and come down.

Now it's being said.

But I don't think

that's going to last.

It's just that people are beginning to react to that more responsibly.

I don't think you, I think you leave it up to them.

You can't give them a miscommunication.

That's just the thing.

You've got to find your own word.

You've got to find a way to do it.

And the head is going to ride above it.

I think, for example, that we put out a record of how much Justin Harris has been a non-starting liberal, liberal, conservative, conservative, conservative, conservative, conservative, conservative, smart person.

who really cares about the conflict.

The political opposition, I think, has had a fight now.

It was the one that she had a hand with.

The author of the book, May, who was May's pretty part of the party, you know, did not take the story that they ever expected any government to have.

Very privately, I mean, they probably, you know, had it some time ago.

And a lot of these Carpers, right, you know, the rest of them don't like being fooled.

And we offered to do it.

It was on the fixed withdrawal rate.

But we offered a fixed withdrawal rate at that time.

But then we offered nine months.

I guess nine months later than now, in October, when the complete package was open.

And then, six months later, we set down.

We offered that he would step down.

a month before the election is going to be held.

He offered that.

Yes, sir.

But not with the understanding that he wouldn't run.

Oh, that's correct.

I thought that he would step down and have another election with the party in court.

I don't know.

We didn't offer him to be born in California.

I don't think we should offer him that.

I don't think we should offer it at all.

We should ask him to offer it.

But he will step down

And after the election, you know, by others.

And then this, then we all went to six months when this one was last.

After the agreement, we went to six months.

And the elections were then how long after the... Well, it was six months after the agreement in principle.

Five months, we reached that ban.

All our forces would be banned.

You know, I think we've all worked on this, but I couldn't love you as much.

You know, he's so personal and all.

He needs an awful lot of, you know, minute-by-minute massage.

And I love it when you push me up the end of the day.

I love you very much, and I think that's really the honest part.

I'm not sure if we lost this one.

I don't think we lost it.

I don't think we're sure if we did.

No, I don't think he wants to know anything.

He's still...

I think they're having a very small, very cautious thing now.

Not because I'm being anti-feminist, but because we're more friendly.

There's a question in my mind, well, gee, this is international,

and he's not going to be a powerful solution for anything that's necessary.

I'm not sure which direction that thing is going to turn.

And I think the PRC, for example, is very active in the radicals of that effect.

We'll push back off, and unless they go, we may see a real complication here before we finish.

I think it's

You know, our benefits are going very slow now, but not that they can't drive back to the restaurant.

I've seen it get all the way through there.

What about the ATM?

You know, we love that.

We should go very soon.

Helping her up.

That would actually be a lot of money to afford.

It's good that she, you know, the woman said she wanted to cut out everything, but we don't want to see it.

We have to be very careful, you know.

I'm sure that he was quite a villager and spiteful of the rest, but I would agree with him.

I would help him with his work.

And then, you know, we're going to drop it off.

And so that was the game plan.

Joe and I said they had to plan it two years ago.

And it's a game trick.

See, I went to him and did an assessment on this.

I said, our assessment is that civil rights have changed their strategy right now.

They're trying to actively encircle people, whereas the past policy has been to keep the civil conflict fragmented.

He said, that's not right.

He said, their policy has been in a certain house for two years.

I didn't have the guts to move.

...wasn't a reaction but it was a pretext... ...and it still isn't so good.

Of course we can't just screw up the beach when some vessel can't move... ...and we've been on the barge... ...but the beauty of this American program is that we won't get thrown into it... ...and we'll be able to save thousands of lives.

Okay.

Get some rest now.

Hello?

Yeah.

Hello?

Yeah.

I'm here.

All right.

And now I talk to them about it, that we've done a good track.

And that's a really good one.

And so they do that for public track.

And privately, we're going to make a deal.

By the way, that's the number that we want to get.

They're there, but unfortunately, we're going to be involved in a big deal.

I'm not going to go about that, but I'll report it to the building I did.

So it's a design that's inevitable,

That might not be the state, you know, that we're in right now.

I don't remember the end of it.

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know.

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Nixon, Haig & Haldeman on Vietnam War and Foreign Policy

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