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Nixon & Kissinger on Personnel appointments and Military leadership

Monday, March 13, 1972 · 6:12 PM–6:17 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.Conversation323-010 on Tape 323 (tape position 01:13:11–01:16:58)StartMonday, March 13, 1972 at 6:12 PMEndMonday, March 13, 1972 at 6:17 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 323-010 ↗

President Nixon and Henry Kissinger met to discuss the potential appointment or utilization of a specific military official, reflecting on the candidate's professional capabilities and personal reliability. Despite expressing reservations about trusting the individual, Nixon acknowledged the candidate's hard-working nature and expertise. The brief exchange focused on evaluating this figure's suitability for a role requiring military credibility.

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1:13:29All right.
1:13:30So, just between draft and busting, any last-minute news?
1:13:33What?
1:13:33Thank you.
1:13:43Thank you.
1:13:46Yeah.
1:13:49I'll leave all that out, but I just want to be sure that we don't put...
1:14:02Oh, of course.
1:14:28But I don't trust him.
1:14:30I'm just thinking that after we're there.
1:14:44Except that he knows a hell of a lot about work.
1:14:50He is a tough, able man.
1:14:54He's a hard worker.
1:14:59The idea of a military guy who appeals to me to understand is that my husband would like to use your name.
1:15:05Why not?
1:15:05I'll need it.
1:15:06He at least could talk to a military police officer and he said, I've never been a lot, but maybe you'll be able to like it.
1:15:26If you remember what I said,
1:16:25What is your, when you go to the market, where do you start?
1:16:39Okay, all right.

On March 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 6:12 pm to 6:17 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 323-010 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 323-10

Date: March 13, 1972
Time: 6:12 pm - 6:17 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Henry A. Kissinger.

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Conversation 323-010, March 13, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/323-010 (accessed October 3, 2026).