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Nixon & Rogers on Personnel appointments and Administrative stability

Thursday, May 10, 1973 · 3:02 PM–3:05 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 4 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Rogers, William P.Conversation435-010 on Tape 435StartThursday, May 10, 1973 at 3:02 PMEndThursday, May 10, 1973 at 3:05 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 435-010 ↗

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President Nixon and Secretary of State William P. Rogers discuss potential appointments and personnel strategies intended to demonstrate administrative stability during a period of political turmoil. The conversation touches upon the selection of a career official to fill a specific position, emphasizing the need to move forward with staffing despite external pressures. Additionally, Nixon prepares Rogers for an upcoming briefing with Henry Kissinger regarding recent diplomatic developments following Kissinger's return from Russia.

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Well, I felt, did you try that way out thing on Warren?
It is rather way out, but you know, we know what that is, but the point is that the last garage is a great thing for him, and a great thing for the country.
And he'll have a complete free hand, you know, the whole business.
If he doesn't do it, I'm not going to fight for him anyway.
I'm going to go on and do a speech sometime on Monday morning in his favor.
Well, I can contribute a lot to it, too.
I think they finally got the spirit that we're trying to get across now.
Do you think so?
They needed to get it off.
They don't want to be putting it down on the ground all the time.
This thing is just a little pass.
It's not going to pass soon, but it will pass.
run the country well.
That's one of the reasons, you know, I gave a lot of thought to what we needed to do in Kyrgyzstan.
I really thought if we had canceled it, it would have been a mistake.
You know, you know, it looked like the whole government had come to a standstill.
And I said, all right, I'll go.
How long has that issue been going on?
Oh, that's not bad.
Yeah.
Well, we'll meet tomorrow, you know, at 11, for, you know, symbolic purposes.
I don't do a damn about the time, but whatever time you need, but my point is that we'll do it.
Now, Kissinger gets back from Russia at 9 o'clock tonight, and so I think what I want to do is that we should meet long enough for you to have a goddamn good run-down with him, too, and we're going to be able to talk about any more of this crap, you know, that we're not going to be able to do that.
Well, it is just helpful.
Wait, I know that.
But the point is that I want you to know, though, that this crash is going to stop.
I have a long talk with her.
Hey, this is her calling me.
We're not going to let you think you and me can do it perfectly.
I didn't want to announce it.
I didn't want the army to stir it up.
He's the best man for the job.
He's willing to do it.
He's willing to give us a full career to do this, but she doesn't have a hell of a place to do it.
That's just between you and me.
That's me.
Now, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's,
He was not in it at all.
But anyway, Colby's son was one of the grooms for Trish's wedding.
Putting a career guy in, they'll have someone too.
He said, no, we'll go forward on it.
Thank you.

NARA Description

On May 10, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and William P. Rogers met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:02 pm to 3:05 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 435-010 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 435-10

Date: May 10, 1973
Time: 3:02 pm-3:05 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with William P. Rogers.

[See Conversation No. 45-191]

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  • 435-008 2:56 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:56 pm to 3:00 pm.
  • 045-190 3:00 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:00 pm and 3:02 pm.
  • 435-009 3:00 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:00 pm and 3:02 pm.
  • 045-191 3:02 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and William P. Rogers talked on the telephone from 3:02 pm to 3:05 pm.
  • 435-011 3:05 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:05 pm and 3:10 pm.
  • 045-192 3:10 PM · 17 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at 3:10 pm.
  • 435-012 3:10 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 3:10 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 435-010, May 10, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/435-010 (accessed October 1, 2026).