Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 235 › Conversation 235-011

Nixon phone call with Haldeman on Public Relations and Personnel Management

Saturday, December 9, 1972 · 4:00 PM–6:50 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Conversation235-011 on Tape 235StartSaturday, December 9, 1972 at 4:00 PMEndSaturday, December 9, 1972 at 6:50 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 235-011 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman meet at Camp David to discuss staffing, public relations strategies, and the integration of Julie Nixon into official social roles to bolster the administration's image. The pair also engages in casual conversation regarding political appointments and professional football, highlighting the President's desire to leverage family members for political optics. No definitive personnel decisions are finalized, but they agree on the potential positive impact of Julie’s increased public presence.

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Hello.
Hi.
Did you get a chance to talk to Bill again?
Hi.
It's all fine.
It's just that I'm in Vegas coming back.
He's, you know, working on some things.
He gets in on a lot of things.
I think it's going to be incredible, and it has to be.
It has to be.
It has to be.
It's a beautiful place down here, though.
Yeah.
I've got you back.
Good.
Meeting later with the Democrats.
Didn't throw her out, but they elected her again.
Remember Conley?
Conley had the view that they had another vote.
That's going to be a tough break, not only for Holley, but for the Dallas Cowboys, who can contend to hit with a wild card position in the playoffs.
They sure could use him a 14-year veteran.
Well, most teams have had several injuries today, bumps and bruises, and, you know, that's what happens when you go to, like, the Western Braves, you can't come in with a game flat.
Yeah.
What is the committee on this case now?
It's not a problem, honestly.
Dr. Ziegler wrote about Julie as a good point.
He said, rather than making her the constant replacement, not just me, you know, put her in as a member of the social order, you know what I mean?
I agree.
I think she'll just knock out the crowd.
She'll get a knockout.
She'll help us on PR.
She'll get a big march.
Yes, it is.
We'll make it a job.
We've got to be scrapping something other than giving her the job.
Connie's job, maybe.
I don't know how you do that.
Okay.
Bye.

NARA Description

On December 9, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 4:00 pm and 6:50 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 235-011 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 235-11

Date: December 9, 1972
Time: Unknown between 4:00 pm and 6:50 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

[See Conversation No. 157-30 ]

Also recorded on December 9, 1972

  • 157-028 4:00 PM · 11 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 4:00 pm and 6:50 pm.
  • 157-029 4:00 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 4:00 pm and 6:50 pm.
  • 157-030 4:00 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 4:00 pm and 6:50 pm.
  • 157-031 4:00 PM · 21 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 4:00 pm and 6:50 pm.
  • 157-032 4:00 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 4:00 pm and 6:50 pm.
  • 157-033 4:00 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 4:00 pm and 6:50 pm.
  • 157-034 4:00 PM · 37 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 4:00 pm and 6:50 pm.
  • 157-035 4:00 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 4:00 pm and 6:50 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 235-011, December 9, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/235-011 (accessed October 10, 2026).