Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 328 › Conversation 328-019

Nixon, MacGregor & Sanchez on Legislative relations and Republican Party unity

Wednesday, March 29, 1972 · 3:07 PM–3:15 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 4 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); MacGregor, Clark; Sanchez, ManoloConversation328-019 on Tape 328 (tape position 01:59:54–02:04:03)StartWednesday, March 29, 1972 at 3:07 PMEndWednesday, March 29, 1972 at 3:15 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 328-019 ↗

President Nixon met with Clark MacGregor to debrief on a recent meeting with Southern legislators and gauge the support of House Republicans. The discussion focused on navigating legislative hurdles and ensuring party unity regarding ongoing policy challenges. The President emphasized the strategic importance of managing these political relationships and maintaining momentum during the upcoming legislative recess.

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So... How'd you get along with your, uh, Southerners today?
Good.
How many people came, Clark?
You know, some House members only?
Right.
Good.
Good, good, good.
Bert will be all right.
Sure.
That's good.
Good.
Good.
Good.
I got the report this morning.
Back on.
Maybe from playing their game.
Yeah.
So it's the first time that they
What happened?
They hear it's been aimed today.
Yeah.
But the fight is now that you mean the Republicans may not stand up on termination here.
Yeah.
That's not the issue now.
We can't go now.
We can't have clients.
He doesn't have the provocation to do anything.
So he's got to have a vote before he can do anything.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think there's sort of
The very fact that you're going to, the very fact that you're going on for a week, I mean going off for a week, that's good, you know what I mean?
There's a certain tendency, Clark, that I remember, too, of these things, where they've almost got the entire, you know what I mean?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.

On March 29, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Clark MacGregor, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:07 pm to 3:15 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 328-019 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 328-19

Date: March 29, 1972
Time: 3:07 pm - 3:15 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Clark MacGregor.

Manolo Sanchez left at an unknown time between 3:07 pm and 3:15 pm.

[See Conversation No. 22-44]
  • 328-012 12:57 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:57 pm and 3:07 pm.
  • 022-044 3:07 PM · 8 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Clark MacGregor, and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 3:07 pm to 3:15 pm.
  • 328-020 3:15 PM · 23 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:15 pm and 3:50 pm.
  • 328-021 3:15 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:15 pm and 3:50 pm.
  • 022-045 3:50 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone from 3:50 pm to 3:51 pm.
  • 328-022 3:50 PM · 46 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:50 pm to 3:51 pm.
  • 022-046 4:00 PM · 3 min — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, and Richard G. Kleindienst talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:00 pm and 4:48 pm.
  • 328-023 4:00 PM · 32 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, and Richard G. Kleindienst met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:00 pm to 4:48 pm.

Conversation 328-019, March 29, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/328-019 (accessed October 1, 2026).