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Conversation: 330-013

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Start Date: 5-Apr-1972 10:05 AM

End Date: 5-Apr-1972 11:39 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")[Unknown person(s)]Ehrlichman, John D.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:56:23

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:20:50

330a.mp3

330b.mp3

330c.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 5, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, unknown person(s), and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 10:05 am to 11:39 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 330-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 330-13

Date: April 5, 1972
Time: 10:05 am - 11:39 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

       International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT] case
             -John N. Mitchell
                   -Statement
                          -Publicity
             -Public statements
                   -Robert J. Dole
                   -Barry M. Goldwater
             -Charles W. Colson


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            -ITT case
                  -Impact on Administration
                  -Administration’s response
                       -Photograph
                             -Boston Globe
                             -Mock-up for the President's perusal


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      Education
           -The President's speech to Philadelphia convention
                -Revised draft
                      -John D. Ehrlichman
                      -Wording
                             -Rewriting
                      -Call to Ehrlichman

Haldeman talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 10:05 and 11:39 am.

[Conversation No. 330-13A]

      Ehrlichman
            -Location
            -Return call
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                                       Tape Subject Log
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                                                                     Conv. No. 330-13 (cont.)

[End of telephone conversation]

       Education
            -The President's speech to Philadelphia convention
            -Ehrlichman's location
            -Speech
                  -Revisions
                       -Consultation with Ehrlichman
                       -The President's drafts
                       -Patrick J. Buchanan
                       -Raymond K. Price, Jr.

Haldeman talked with Ehrlichman at an unknown time between 10:05 and 11:39 am.

[Conversation No. 330-13B]

             -Catholics
             -Speech
                  -The President's revisions
                  -Time
                        -Arrangements
                             -Philadelphia

Haldeman and the President conferred at an unknown time during the conversation.

[End of telephone conversation]

       The President's speech on education
            -Trip to Philadelphia
                  -Transportation
                         -Helicopter
                               -Time of travel

       The President's trip to Florida
            -Press coverage
                  -Prior notice
            -Henry A. Kissinger's accompaniment
                  -Kissinger's plans
                  -Publicity

       The President's schedule
            -Haldeman's plans
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                                                               Conv. No. 330-13 (cont.)

           -Gridiron Dinner
                 -Haldeman's attendance
           -Philadelphia convention
                 -Buchanan's presence on trip

      Drug enforcement

      John R. (“Tex”) McCrary
           -Possible assignment


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           -As opposed to someone else's assignment

      William L. Safire

      Photographs


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           -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins
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                                      Tape Subject Log
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                                                                  Conv. No. 330-13 (cont.)

                  -Judgment
                  -Abilities as photographer
             -Photographs of the President
                  -James Keogh's book
                  -Allen S. Drury's book
                  -Action shots

       People's Republic of China [PRC] trip
            -Public memory
                  -Need to revive
            -Unknown person's judgment

       Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
            -Schedule
                  -American Broadcasting Company [ABC] special
                  -Constance M. (“Connie”) Stuart

Haldeman talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 10:05 am and 11:39 am.

[Conversation No. 330-13C]

       Mrs. Nixon
            -Location
            -Schedule
                  -ABC special

[End of telephone conversation]

       McCrary
           -Work with Mrs. Nixon
           -White House staff
                -Work with Mrs. Nixon
                -Stuart

       PRC trip
            -A letter
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                                    Tape Subject Log
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                                                              Conv. No. 330-13 (cont.)

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      White House Dinner
           -Retiring members of Congress
                 -List of invitees
                 -Memorandum
                 -Ranking members of committees
                 -Size of list
                 -Republicans
           -Degree of formality
           -Time
           -The President's schedule

      The President's schedule
           -Duke Law School graduates
                 -Meeting
                 -Dinner
                        -Number
                        -Professors
                        -Dean of Law School
                        -Army Chorus
                        -Length
                        -Classmates
                              -Number
                 -Reception
                        -Military
                        -Time
                        -Arrangements
                 -The President's remarks
           -Business meeting
           -Duke Law School Dinner
                 -Dean of school
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                                     Tape Subject Log
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                                                               Conv. No. 330-13 (cont.)

                       -Invitation
                             -President of the University
                                   -Ehrlichman


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      McCrary idea

      The President's drug message
           -Format
                 -Use of telephones
                        -Hotline number
                 -One minute spot
                 -Presidential posture
                        -Advisors' proposals
                        -Haldeman's views
                 -Myles J. Ambrose
                        -Announcement
                              -Timing
                        -Ehrlichman
                 -Fireside chat
                        -Importance of the issue
                              -Drug programs
                                    -Results
                                         -Publicity
                        -Timing

     The President's appearances
          -Issues
                -Vietnam War
                       -Demands on the President's time
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                              Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 330-13 (cont.)

          -Philadelphia education convention
          -Drug message
                -Fireside chat
                -Arrangements
                -Hotline
                -Time and day of the week
                -Television time
                      -Hotline
                      -Requests
                -Delays
                      -Press conferences
                      -Equal time
                -Remarks
                      -Length
                            -Maximum
                      -Televison coverage
                -Hotline
                      -Phone number
                            -Announcement
                -Ambrose
                      -As symbol
                      -Work with McCrary
                      -Compared with J. Edgar Hoover's tactics in
                       1930's
                      -Strike force
                      -Drug peddlers
                            -Arrests
                                  -Presidential awards
                -Follow-up to press conference

The President's schedule
     -Meeting with William P. Rogers
     -Elliot L. Richardson
     -Melvin R. Laird
     -Press conference
           -Cancellation
     -Meeting with unknown person
           -The President's speech
           -Vietnam
           -Kissinger's presence
           -Day of week
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                                        Tape Subject Log
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                                                                   Conv. No. 330-13 (cont.)

       Vietnam issue
            -Laird
            -Propaganda
            -Rogers
                  -Meeting with the President
                       -Time

Haldeman talked with an unknown person (or persons) at an unknown time between 10:05 and
11:39 am.

[Conversation No. 330-13D]

       Unknown person's schedule

The President conferred with Haldeman during the conversation.

[End of telephone conversation]

       The President's schedule
            -Meeting with Rogers
                  -Time
            -Meeting with Kissinger

       Anti-trust suit against networks
             -Richard G. Kleindienst
             -Mitchell's approval
                    -The President's review
             -Colson
                    -Herbert G. Klein
             -Areas of review
                    -Programming
             -Report to the President

       ITT hearings
            -News story
            -Senate Judiciary Committee
            -Convention hall
                  -Press reports
            -Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.
            -Businessman in San Diego
            -Misinterpretation
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                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 330-13 (cont.)

      Kleindienst
           -Statement on demonstrations
                  -Mitchell's concern

      Mitchell
           -Public relations sense
           -Staff meetings
                 -Judgment
           -Colson
                 -Judgment


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      George S. McGovern
           -White House plant
                 -Compared with plant in Edmund S. Muskie organization
                 -Ties to Edward M. Kennedy


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      The President's trip to unknown place
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                                      Tape Subject Log
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                                                                  Conv. No. 330-13 (cont.)

             -Kissinger
             -Report
             -Impact

       Drugs
            -Delay of speech
            -Marijuana
                 -Legalization
                        -The President's opposition
                             -Statement
                                    -Heroin
                        -Opposition
                 -Users
                        -Views on legalization

Haldeman left at 11:39 am.