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Nixon & Stennis on Appropriations and Fiscal policy

Thursday, August 3, 1972 · 4:57 PM–4:59 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Stennis, John C.Conversation353-023 on Tape 353StartThursday, August 3, 1972 at 4:57 PMEndThursday, August 3, 1972 at 4:59 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 353-023 ↗

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President Nixon met with Senator John C. Stennis to offer birthday wishes and express appreciation for his legislative leadership regarding appropriations. The conversation addressed ongoing challenges with Republican support for the administration's fiscal agenda and the hope for favorable outcomes during upcoming budget conference committees. Nixon acknowledged the difficulties of the election year while reaffirming his private support for Stennis's efforts.

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Hello.
Yeah.
Hello.
God, I'm calling on two things.
One, to wish you a happy birthday, and two, to thank you for another really great job on, you know, fighting under the appropriations.
And we, unless it's sort of a tough vote, but now you've got the conference, and we just hope that some of it can be ironed out.
I must say, we put them off a little bit.
Particularly when we can't even provide to our own Republicans.
The Vice President called me last night.
He was re-operating.
I said, well, I said, well, I said, I understand, you know, I understand our Democrats.
I said, well, it's election year, but the Republicans have got no business doing this.
Yeah.
That was great.
That was a great one.
That was right.
Right.
Well, we don't win them all.
And on this one, we hope the house is strong enough so that we can work it out in conference.
No.
Sure.
Sure.
Right.
Well, good in heaven.
You just, you appreciate it.
You get, I can assure you that on this and more and without saying a thing, you don't know if you're on the right side.
History will record it, but we just can't say much.
And you know why.
It's an L.A. that you get the, that's the next one I got to do.
You go home and have a quiet dinner, I hope.
You do that.
Okay.
All right.

NARA Description

On August 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John C. Stennis met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:57 pm to 4:59 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 353-023 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 353-23

Date: August 3, 1972
Time: 4:57 pm - 4:59 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with John C. Stennis.

[See Conversation No. 29-10]

Also recorded on August 3, 1972

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  • 353-019 4:15 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:15 pm and 4:30 pm.
  • 029-007 4:30 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone from 4:30 pm to 4:33 pm.
  • 029-008 4:44 PM · 22 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman talked on the telephone from 4:44 pm to 4:45 pm.
  • 029-009 4:45 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:45 pm and 4:57 pm.
  • 353-022 4:45 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:45 pm and 4:47 pm.
  • 029-010 4:57 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and John C. Stennis talked on the telephone from 4:57 pm to 4:59 pm.
  • 353-024 5:00 PM · 48 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Zosimo T. Monzon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:00 pm to 5:57 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 353-023, August 3, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/353-023 (accessed October 1, 2026).