On March 28, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:20 pm to 4:40 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 425-023 of the White House Tapes.
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I really don't think they're up to that level of support.
They had their session.
He recognized the problem.
And it was not just the meeting that started, but the way the scenarios had been spelled out and other political questions.
And he's going to have to figure it out.
which appears to be having a very strict application of the privilege.
So, he appears only to answer questions regarding his own participation in specific Watergate-related activities, and not discussing the law or anything else.
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Let me say though,
Thank you.
I'm January 37th.
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to say, well, there's a list of .
It's not fair.
It isn't fair to get attracted.
It isn't fair for a critter to take a rap.
But if they told you, told you to be gone, you know, so forth, you'd be able to get a critter around .
You wouldn't even want to get .
You wouldn't even .
The idea is that we as a business can't get into this at all.
I feel very strongly about this.
I've heard of this common practice of these businesses.
These guys' businesses have got to be abandoned.
They're foolish, they have to try to do the wrong.
They've got to serve some kind.
It's an old-world life.
Well, we ought to be able to forgive them.
That's right.
We ought to be able to forgive them.
Possibility.
Possibility.
You have to deal with that.
You can't have clouds around.
That's another thing.
The whole plan is this.
He had no, he had no discrepancy.
He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
He didn't want to say well, but he argued against it.
Thank you.
Oh, I understand.
Well, they had to evolve it.
They told me to step up any way we can.
They were suggesting a claim.
He has to be a person on Saturday morning for New York.
We will speak to New York Saturday night.
We can get it Friday night.
We could have it at 1, 2, or 3.
The problem was to be late at 6.
We missed it.
Come down from the right.
No concussing.
All right.
Suggestive.
Since you can't do Chelsea Andrews in any way, do the other step.
Is that what you need?
To stay at the front?
Well, why don't you come down?
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Also, by the way, Sam, they've got to get the staff who's the person who wants to be helpful and bring Dennis back in and see if we can work out a reason for him to do it.
Even though they're right now in the general sense of the word, they're trying to do it there.
I mean, I've watched that.
I mean, that's what I think.
I'm going to call.
I'm going to put it on purpose.
I'm going to put it on purpose.
I'm going to put it on purpose.
It's working, huh?
You're having the taxes checked and everything?
Yeah.
You're thinking about all sorts of spreading things?
I wonder if somebody should talk to Howard.
I always talk to him about this.
They've been told more that he feels he can't because the legals are gone.
Well, because it would look bad, he said, both you and I in partnership may be caught with questioning the investigation itself.
He's probably right.
He said, I don't think we want to be in a position where we're staying out in front of the sales.
But at least he can say, hey, I have no problem with telling the attorney general about what he asked you to do.
I'm trying to move out of the way.
They're far away.
We can't figure this out.
We've got to get out of there.
We've got to get out of there.
We've got to get out of there.
We've got to get out of there.
You don't have to, but you can.
It's counterproductive.
Do you have any thoughts on how our economy is going to get back to my field?
He said, the captain doesn't need a first, right?
He says, it wouldn't be wise to try to do that because you can't tell everything.
And that's the thing anybody says is, well, why don't you just put it all out?
And that's it.
Well, at least you can tell them.
You know, they don't know what I've been saying.
I said, what can we do?
It's the very simple thing.
They don't know.
They don't know.
They don't know.
We have cooperatives.
We are willing to cooperate.
We will have et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
And that investigation was made in the White House by the president.
Nobody in the White House staff has passed three tests to prove it.
None.
That's the staff that's been made.
But these guys, they're like, yeah, I don't understand a question like that, but they don't believe it.
You see?
And actually, we said it.
Then what do they suggest that I say?
They're suggesting that you appear.
The thing is, what I'm trying to get at is, political types of opponents want us to appear.
Our proponents simply want us to say what did happen.
They don't believe that what's out there now is the whole story of what it is.
No.
It is almost, but it's pretty close to being it, if you know what I mean.
It is a great goddamn collection of things where I'm living, you know.
It's about very believable that Mahmood earned a lot.
Yeah.
And that's the charge of this man.
He says he did.
Now it's hard, it's harder to believe he did than to believe he did.
He isn't in the White House, but he's still, why is he being covered up?
If he knew about it, why didn't he say he knew about it?
Why didn't he let it go like that?
That's right.
I heard there was no backup today.
I can see that.
Well, he already had it.
That's right.
That's right.
Scurrying.
Lidious.
Scurrier.
Screwing.
I've heard of those people.
Whatever the plant was, it was rejected.
It was just carried out.
It was an original plant that I knew of.
They've said it wasn't censored by the president.
They've said it wasn't censored by the president.
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Well, better luck then.
Better health.