Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 442 › Conversation 442-048

Nixon & Bull on White House tapes and Watergate

Monday, June 4, 1973 · 5:06 PM–6:04 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation442-048 on Tape 442StartMonday, June 4, 1973 at 5:06 PMEndMonday, June 4, 1973 at 6:04 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 442-048 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull and Ronald L. Ziegler to conduct an administrative review and audit of the White House taping system. The participants addressed technical difficulties regarding missing or improperly recorded segments, including calls from Camp David. The discussion also touched upon high-stakes political concerns, including the ongoing Watergate investigation, the role of John W. Dean, and potential legal threats posed by the Ervin Committee and Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox.

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NARA Description

On June 4, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:06 pm and 6:04 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 442-048 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 442-048

Date: June 4, 1973
Time: Unknown between 5:06 pm and 6:04 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was initially prepared for the
Watergate Special Prosecution Force (WSPF) and can be found in Record Group (RG) 460, Box
172, “Transcript Prepared by the Impeachment Inquiry Staff for the House Judiciary
Committee…,” pages 58-60 (.pdf pages 62-64). The Nixon Presidential Materials Staff
reviewed the transcript and made changes as necessary. This transcript has been reviewed under
the provisions of the Presidential Recordings and Materials Preservation Act of 1974 (PRMPA).
The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

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Bull left at an unknown time before 6:04 pm.

Transcript (AI-generated)

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See?

This one got a...

I guess I'll have to check it here.

I don't have it on around.

So, maybe you can, can you take it now?

Is that the number for the person?

Let me show you.

Give me the number for the person.

What is the number for the person?

Remember where this began?

Yeah.

Okay, check it out and see if I missed something.

We did lose the second more conversation, the more team conversation in a year, for some reason.

We lost it?

We lost that one.

And we don't have the telephone we called a few days from Camp David.

The gentleman said we took more than that call.

That's right.

We have the ones from Peter's game.

Yes, sir.

We don't have those recorded.

We don't have those.

Okay.

Also recorded on June 4, 1973

442-032 2:50 PM · 11 min — President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:50 pm and 5:00 pm.
039-078 5:00 PM · 6 min — White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. talked on the telephone from 5:00 pm to 5:06 pm.
442-043 5:00 PM · 5 min — Alexander M. Haig, Jr. and President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:00 pm to 5:06 pm.
442-044 5:06 PM · 21 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:06 pm and 6:04 pm.
442-045 5:06 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:06 pm and 6:04 pm.
442-046 5:06 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:06 pm and 6:04 pm.
442-047 5:06 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:06 pm and 6:04 pm.
442-049 6:04 PM · 1 hr 18 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Ronald L. Ziegler, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 6:04 pm to 7:47 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 442-048, June 4, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/442-048 (accessed November 15, 2026).