Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 438 › Conversation 438-016

Nixon & Bull on White House Fellows and Henry Kissinger

Thursday, May 17, 1973 · 3:43 PM–3:53 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 55 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation438-016 on Tape 438StartThursday, May 17, 1973 at 3:43 PMEndThursday, May 17, 1973 at 3:53 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 438-016 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull to coordinate his upcoming schedule and handle logistics for several pending engagements. The discussion focused on arrangements for meetings with Henry Kissinger and Charles Rebozo, as well as the President’s participation in activities involving the White House Fellows. Nixon finalized the planning for a reception for the Fellows and confirmed his attendance at the associated events.

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Mr. President, I don't know what your minds are, but the 1973-74 White House fell into the academy.
I will not speak for anyone, whatever.
I just don't want to say anything.
So what was it?
They wanted to come in for a half hour or so.
They were having a reception.
Yes, great, great.

NARA Description

On May 17, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:43 pm and 3:53 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 438-016 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 438-16

Date: May 17, 1973
Time: Unknown between 3:43 pm and 3:53 pm
Location: Old Executive Office Building

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       President’s schedule
              -Henry A. Kissinger
              -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
              -White House Fellows
                      -Trip
              -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
              -White House Fellows
                      -Reception

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:53 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 438-016, May 17, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/438-016 (accessed October 12, 2026).