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Butterfield, Bull & Sanchez on Oval Office logistics

Tuesday, September 21, 1971 · 11:33 AM–11:38 AM ET · Oval Office · 5 sec

ParticipantsButterfield, Alexander P.; Bull, Stephen B.; Sanchez, ManoloConversation449-005 on Tape 449 (tape position 00:42:41–00:42:46)StartTuesday, September 21, 1971 at 11:33 AMEndTuesday, September 21, 1971 at 11:38 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 449-005 ↗

Alexander P. Butterfield, Stephen B. Bull, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office to coordinate administrative logistics regarding the President’s location. The participants discussed a phone call initiated by Bull while managing scheduling uncertainties. The brief interaction concluded with the group exiting the office to facilitate ongoing operations.

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You're aware of the power she's got, so I can't even tell you what's going to happen.

On September 21, 1971, Alexander P. Butterfield, Stephen B. Bull, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:33 am and 11:38 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 449-005 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 449-5

Date: September 21, 1971
Time: Unknown between 11:33 am and 11:38 am
Location: Oval Office

Alexander P. Butterfield, Stephen B. Bull and Manolo Sanchez met.

     President’s location

     Bull's call

Butterfield, Bull and Sanchez left at an unknown time before 11:38 am.
  • 449-003 11:13 AM · 34 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at 11:13 am.
  • 449-004 11:13 AM · 25 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Olav V, King of Norway, Arne Gunneng, Emil ("Bus") Mosbacher, Jr., Helmut ("Hal") Sonnenfeldt, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:13 am to 11:33 am.
  • 449-006 11:38 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Manolo Sanchez, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:38 am to 11:40 am.
  • 449-007 11:40 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:40 am and 11:48 am.
  • 449-008 11:48 AM · 26 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Paul G. Hoffman, Col. Richard T. Kennedy, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:48 am to 12:14 pm.
  • 449-009 12:14 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:14 pm and 12:17 pm.
  • 076-007 12:17 PM — President Richard M. Nixon and members of the International Seminar on Illicit Drug Traffic and Abuse, including Andrew C. Tartaglino, George Belk, Walter H. Buck, John W. Warner, Perry A. Rivkind, Dr. Edwin Rock, Dr. Ernst Hoffman, Andre Thirty, Leon François, Gordon Tomalty, Reginald Pruneau, José Nieto; Esbjorn Esbjornsson, Jean Benoit, S. T. Charles, W. Rogers, H. B. Spear, Alex Hasland, Jean Ducet, Honore Gevaudan, Jacques Reillac, Michel Noquet, Dr. Karl Heinz Gemmer, Jurgen Jeschke, Manlio Vinale, Antonio Fariello, Hicham Kourayten, Antoine Saade, Numa Wagner, Sten Grindhaug, Egil ("Bud") Krogh, Jr., Walter Minnick, and Geoffrey C. Shepard, met in the Cabinet Room of the White House from 12:17 pm to 12:23 pm.
  • 449-010 12:23 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:23 pm and 12:25 pm.

Conversation 449-005, September 21, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/449-005 (accessed October 10, 2026).