Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 449 › Conversation 449-009

Nixon & Bull on Public relations and Drug policy

Tuesday, September 21, 1971 · 12:14 PM–12:17 PM ET · Oval Office · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation449-009 on Tape 449 (tape position 01:14:38–01:16:30)StartTuesday, September 21, 1971 at 12:14 PMEndTuesday, September 21, 1971 at 12:17 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 449-009 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 417178961 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to coordinate logistical arrangements for an upcoming photo opportunity with attendees of the International Seminar on Illicit Drug Traffic and Abuse. Bull briefed the President on the group's composition, the requirement for French translation, and the expectation that the President provide brief remarks and commemorative cufflinks. The meeting served to finalize the brief protocol for the interaction, confirming that Nixon would not be expected to deliver an extensive address.

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NARA Description

On September 21, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:14 pm and 12:17 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 449-009 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 449-9

Date: September 21, 1971
Time: Unknown between 12:14 pm and 12:17 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     The President's schedule
          -Meeting with the International Seminar on Illicit Drug Traffic and Abuse
               -The President's statement
                      -Sponsors of seminar
                           -US
                           -Canada
                           -France
                                 -Language
                      -Translation
               -Photo opportunity
               -Number of attendees
               -Presidential gifts
                      -Cufflinks

The President and Bull left at 12:17 pm.

Transcript (AI-generated)

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This is a continuing seminar on the 13th and 24th, which was sponsored by the U.S. Senate in France.
You're not really expected to say very much to them.
In fact, some of them donated speaking.
Later on, after the rest of the room, someone will paraphrase in French to some of the French Canadians in French what you said, sir.
But it's really just a press photo just to thank them for their continuing work on this.
Just for the photograph that you had with this group.
But they don't expect anything other than for you to come in here for just a moment, sir.
We're all ready to join the meetings.
They're a lot.
They're a great number.
They're 35, sir.
I won't meet you then.
No, sir.
We'll get a little bit of some confidence afterwards in the department.
But this is true.

Also recorded on September 21, 1971

  • 449-005 11:33 AM · 5 sec — Alexander P. Butterfield, Stephen B. Bull, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:33 am and 11:38 am.
  • 449-006 11:38 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Manolo Sanchez, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:38 am to 11:40 am.
  • 449-007 11:40 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:40 am and 11:48 am.
  • 449-008 11:48 AM · 26 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Paul G. Hoffman, Col. Richard T. Kennedy, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:48 am to 12:14 pm.
  • 076-007 12:17 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and members of the International Seminar on Illicit Drug Traffic and Abuse, including Andrew C. Tartaglino, George Belk, Walter H. Buck, John W. Warner, Perry A. Rivkind, Dr. Edwin Rock, Dr. Ernst Hoffman, Andre Thirty, Leon François, Gordon Tomalty, Reginald Pruneau, José Nieto; Esbjorn Esbjornsson, Jean Benoit, S. T. Charles, W. Rogers, H. B. Spear, Alex Hasland, Jean Ducet, Honore Gevaudan, Jacques Reillac, Michel Noquet, Dr. Karl Heinz Gemmer, Jurgen Jeschke, Manlio Vinale, Antonio Fariello, Hicham Kourayten, Antoine Saade, Numa Wagner, Sten Grindhaug, Egil ("Bud") Krogh, Jr., Walter Minnick, and Geoffrey C. Shepard, met in the Cabinet Room of the White House from 12:17 pm to 12:23 pm.
  • 449-010 12:23 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:23 pm and 12:25 pm.
  • 449-011 12:25 PM · 10 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Kenneth E. BeLieu, William E. Timmons, White House photographer, and Clark MacGregor met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:25 pm to 12:34 pm.
  • 449-012 12:35 PM · 1 hr 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, unknown person(s), Henry A. Kissinger, Stephen B. Bull, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:35 pm to 1:40 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 449-009, September 21, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417178961). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/449-009 (accessed November 2, 2026).